XT Software

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:18 pm

DarkStar wrote: Samplelord v1.1
When I scroll the mousewheel in Samplelord's Browser, XT2 locks up. The mousewheel works OK in the Samplelord standalone version.

Fixed by a mod to Samplelord - should be in the next release

EkleipSiS · Post by **EkleipSiS** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:26 pm

soma wrote:ekel- get the latest beta . the link is in the whats new in the latest beat thread. the neew b has fixes specifically for sybc issues.

I tested it with the last beta...(june 29)...and got those synk problems with livecut and anarchy rythms

Klingeman · Post by **Klingeman** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:19 pm

Live-Cut don't work. When I put it as a insert fx or modular than was the sound muted.

jakob · Post by **jakob** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:09 pm

Cryogenic wrote:Jamstix crashes XT2(june 29).
Opening Jamstix works, but crashes on Play.

confirmed with the demo of jamstix on the latest beta (july 10)

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:24 pm

[Moved from the wrong topic]

Amplitube Jimi Hendrix
XT2 and eXT1 crash as soon as any audio is sent to ATJH when it is added as an Insert FX

If I add it as a Comp in eXT1, it works OK.
If I add it as a Comp in XT2, XT2 crashes instantly (befroe I have a chance to open it and Cancel the Authorization window).

ATJH works OK in other hosts.

[This copy of ATJH is not yet authorized, but I do not think that that matters]

Can anyone confirm this?

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:15 pm

Same problems with (registered) AmpliTube2.

jorgen · Post by **jorgen** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:35 pm

Hi, I managed to get AmpliTube2 running in XT2, but it will crash when XT2 is sending cc 123 to it (all sounds off). XT2 always does this if press stop while not playing (midi panic button)

All I does is send one cc 123 for each 16 midi channels, but AmpliTube2 will crash even if I only send a single cc 123 event. Maybe you could notify the devs?

cheeers
jorgen

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:24 pm

OK, will do,

I've done some more testing here and it looks like AmpliTube2 crashes if it receives _any_ MIDI (notes or CCs) that is not mapped to a VST parameter.

Also, a question, does XT2 send any MIDI to the VSTis and VST FX when you load a project? Try this:
- create a project with a VSTi,
- add AmpliTube2 as an Insert FX,
- save it and close XT2

- open XT2 and open the project

Crashes here.

Loonie · Post by **Loonie** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:55 pm

On an XT2-VST related issue, I've built a VST mixer that I use in XT1 (I use it to generate MIDI level/pan data) using SynthMaker. In XT1, it functions as expected, but in XT2, it doesn't seem to generate any MIDI data.

soma · Post by **soma** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:18 pm

Can you send me a link to the plugin please?

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:34 am

jorgen wrote:Hi, I managed to get AmpliTube2 running in XT2, but it will crash when XT2 is sending cc 123 to it (all sounds off). XT2 always does this if press stop while not playing (midi panic button)

All I does is send one cc 123 for each 16 midi channels, but AmpliTube2 will crash even if I only send a single cc 123 event. Maybe you could notify the devs?

cheeers
jorgen

OK, I have reported this to IK Multimedia.

They confirm that AmpliTube2 does not handle MIDI at all. And that the crashes may be caused as XT (v1 and v2) is trying to send MIDI to a plugin that has no way of receiving the messages.

In XT2, mapping a Control Change or MIDI Envelope / Control Change to AT2's parameters works OK, but unfortunately unmapped MIDI CC messages _and_ the MIDI notes are still sent to AT2, causing the crash.

Also, as above: Does XT2 send any MIDI to the VSTis and VST FX when you load a project? Try this:
- create a project with a VSTi,
- add AmpliTube2 as an Insert FX,
- save it and close XT2
- open XT2 and open the project
==> Crashes here.

Jorgen, I reckon that if you saved your project with AmpliTube in it, then re-opened it, it would crash too.

Even easier, drag AmpliTube into the XT2 main window as a comp.

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A possible solution:
- be able to change the M.Ch and the VST Wrapper to "None"
- as long as any automation (MIDI CC to VST parameters) still gets through.
- don't know about solving the crash when you open a project with AT2 in it though.

jorgen · Post by **jorgen** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:34 pm

They confirm that AmpliTube2 does not handle MIDI at all. And that the crashes may be caused as XT (v1 and v2) is trying to send MIDI to a plugin that has no way of receiving the messages.

Its up to the plugin to ignore midi sent to it. MIDI is not supported by a plugin until they add support for it, but either way it shouldnt crash...

Does XT2 send any MIDI to the VSTis and VST FX when you load a project?

currently yes, but next up it will only send all notes off when stop clicked twice.

cheers
jorgen

Loonie · Post by **Loonie** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:37 pm

Hi Jorgen,

Just PMing you with the plugin links now.

...is PMing even a verb?

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:01 pm

jorgen wrote:
They confirm that AmpliTube2 does not handle MIDI at all. And that the crashes may be caused as XT (v1 and v2) is trying to send MIDI to a plugin that has no way of receiving the messages.
It's up to the plugin to ignore midi sent to it. MIDI is not supported by a plugin until they add support for it, but either way it shouldnt crash...

Looks like a bit of a standoff then

- I get the impression that IK Multimedia won't be changing AmpliTube to deal with this, as it works fine in many other hosts.

Would allowing the user to change the AmpliTube M.Ch to "None", so that the MIDi is not received, help? At the moment the MIDI notes go to the VSTi _and_ to the VST FX (AmpliTube, in this case) and it crashes.

jorgen wrote:
Does XT2 send any MIDI to the VSTis and VST FX when you load a project?
currently yes, but next up it will only send all notes off when stop clicked twice.

cheers
jorgen

Great, that should mean I can reload a song with AmpliTube in it.

Thanks Jorgen.

soma · Post by **soma** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:48 pm

In a different thread Loonie wrote: Here's a quick export of an 8-channel version of the plugin;

Mixtest VST (effect version)
Mixtest VSTi (instrument version)

I've exported the instrument version as well, because I know there are sometimes problems with effects in hosts. The audio out of the plugin is not connected, and is only included because MIDI only plugins also sometimes cause problems with some hosts. Only the MIDI out does anything.

If you lash the VST's MIDI out to something like SampleTank, you should be able to see ST's volume and pan controls update in accordance with the mixer's. In XT1, it works as expected. In XT2, no joy.

(ps- don't worry about the occasional burst of noise coming from the audio output, it's because it was exported with the demo of SynthMaker)

XT Software

KVR Audio

Plugin Problems: VST Issues in XT2 after June 29