KVR Audio

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:14 am

robenestobenz wrote:Ran into Vista preinstalled on a laptop a friend got recently -- a mid-range core duo laptop with 512mb of ram, and vista ran appallingly slow, even with all visual effects off. Straight back to 2K on this one, I was shocked at how sluggish starting up (got INTO the OS very quick, but that doesn't equal being able to do things) and shutting down was.

I don't doubt that.. Microsoft's own requirements state Vista needs 1 GIG of RAM..

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc ... ments.mspx

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:43 am

And Microsoft's requirements are usually woefully understated. 2GB is recommended for Vista, just as 1GB is best for XP (can get by on 512 with a lot of tweaking, but not 256MB)
m@

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:45 am

Whuff. Hope when money finally comes in I'll still be able to get machines with XP on. :-(

xander · Post by **xander** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:27 am

I reckon some form of XP -- perhaps merely just people with personalised, bare-bones, slip-streamed copies -- will be around for a long time, since the CPUs and mobo architechtures that are required to run Vista can also run XP...

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:29 am

*nod* My main concern is not having to pay for Vista if I won't be using it. Might have to settle for not quite the latest thing though. Whatever, it'll be a step or two up from this old box.

xander · Post by **xander** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:37 am

If you own XP now, then *personalise* it -- that is, use XPlite or nlite to strip all the garbage out of it and make a nice clean, bootable CD for yourself wit all your favourite apps on it. When you buy a new box, if they insist on giving it to you with an OEM Vista (or whatever) on it, then just take it home, format, and reload that baby with your personal XP DAW!

intel · Post by **intel** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:43 am

hseiken wrote:btw, intel, what is the pain in the ass about your toshiba? the OS or the faulty motherboard?

they go hand-in-hand. if the motherboard wasn't faulty it'd still be running XP from the hard drive. also I wouldn't have the laptop, but that's a different story. because the board is faulty and its running Linux it gathers dust.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:54 am

@xander: Thanks, I'll probably do something like that. I don't entirely trust my current setup to be configured perfectly (I'm no expert at Windows) so it might take some careful cleanup before things are worth enshrining and transferring that way.

xander · Post by **xander** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 am

@Meffy -- I am in NO WAY an expert either

But I just went through all this shite this past three weeks now and the above is exactly what I did with help form a lot of knowledgable peeps here.

Now in my studio I have a dual-boot 3.8Ghz machine with my DAW on SATA drives in a RAID config under nlite with Aston desktop, and my normal XP bootup (for office, graphics work, etc) under another nlite config not as biased toward audio, which also acts as a mirror for my DAW.

Tres Cool eh?

I'm going to do the same with my home PC shortly.

I was intimidated at first -- especially after having spent weeks trying every form of Ubuntu I could for audio/DAW work and failing miserably, but man am I glad I stuck with it. My DAW is flying now mate - some way good assistance here from some KVR peeps!

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:13 am

Nice. Wish I could use Linux for work but I develop for Windows exclusively. Could be worse, I might be maintaining centuries-old COBOL payroll systems for a living. =o.O=

Adambomb337 · Post by **Adambomb337** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:14 am

What is XPlite and nlite ?

Does it take a lot of time to customize xp?

xander · Post by **xander** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:14 am

xander · Post by **xander** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:30 am

Adambomb337 wrote:What is XPlite and nlite ?

Does it take a lot of time to customize xp?

They're a little bit different animals, but where XPLite allows you to strip out all the garbage junk in XP *after* you install XP, nlite let's you build a custom or *personalised* version of XP *before* you install XP.

For instance, in my nlite XP install disk I made, it now automatically installs Firefox as the default browser, allowing you to completely do without IE, and so on.

*I also got rid of windows explorer as the shell and use Aston Desktop now -- MUCH faster.

Just do a google -- a thousand hits on there about it.

hseiken · Post by **hseiken** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:41 am

VitaminD wrote:
robenestobenz wrote:Ran into Vista preinstalled on a laptop a friend got recently -- a mid-range core duo laptop with 512mb of ram, and vista ran appallingly slow, even with all visual effects off. Straight back to 2K on this one, I was shocked at how sluggish starting up (got INTO the OS very quick, but that doesn't equal being able to do things) and shutting down was.
I don't doubt that.. Microsoft's own requirements state Vista needs 1 GIG of RAM..

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc ... ments.mspx

Don't forget to leave headroom for virus scanner and spyware blocker. :\

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:47 am

Meffy wrote:
robenestobenz wrote:I was shocked at how sluggish starting up (got INTO the OS very quick, but that doesn't equal being able to do things) and shutting down was.
Thrashing and such after the GUI appears?

Yeah, like XP does (this faster bootup thing with these new versions is a bit smoke and mirrors, really) except much longer.

It was home basic by the way, which has a 512mb requirement. Which is minimum, yes, but it was still slow with a fresh install and the fancy GUI disabled. I've seen XP running under relatively comparative configurations, e.g. 256mb and a slowish processor, and fairing much better.

Vista, is just a phase