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koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:48 am

I'm having problems installing the latest Ubuntu(7.04- Fiesty Fawn). First of all, I can't get any live disks to load up. They get so far and then the screen goes black, and the only way to get out of it is to turn off the computer. I can't even run in safe graphics mode. It freezes EARLIER then it does with the regular mode.

I can get into the installation, but the disk partitioning stuff gets a bit more confusing then I remember. I can't just select a current partition and install to it. At least I don't know what option to choose. Ubuntu used to be easier then this, no?

Anyways, are there any Ubuntu experts that might have some tips? I'll be home in a bit and can give more information if needed.

I am on an AMD Turion64. I'm using Ubuntu from a cover disk, which is a loaded version with software repositories already included and codecs and such.

Thanks.

Brent

maximilians1 · Post by **maximilians1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:28 am

hhm not an expert but maybe can help, the previous version of ubuntu was very unstable on my machine, but I'm having much luck with ubuntu studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ very stable and installing codecs is a breeze using "movie player" maybe try that distro. Hte partitioning was convoluted though, basically i did manual setup with two ext3 drives one mounted root "/" and one "home" and then set up a 3 gig swap logical drive

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:31 am

When it freezes, can you get to a console with ctrl-alt-f1 ?
It might be booting and running but not initializing your graphics card.
Just a guess.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:49 am

I tried that combination already, and nothing.

So I'm trying to install to an external drive. Which means that I really don't need the live disk part. I can get into the installation, but I don't know how to set up my partition. I already have a partition set aside for it on my external drive, and it detects it properly. But I have no idea what file system to use, all the boot flag stuff, etc. I have never had to choose all that before. I installed Mandriva recently and it was a breeze(although I didn't like the OS at all).

Brent

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:52 am

Here, for instance, when trying to select the partition and move on, it says that no root system is defined. I have no idea what that is, nor have I had to use it before.

Brent

warp x · Post by **warp x** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:37 am

you have to define diskpartition (hda, hdb, hda1 or whatever it is called),
and define filesystem. (ext2, ext3 , or reiserfs)
after that you have to tell ubuntu what to make "root" (/)
That should be all, (it is here) no need for a swapfile if you don't want it.

hope this helps, I installed linux many times, but explaining it is something else

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:11 am

I'm slowly figuring out the whole thing, thanks to answers here and trial and error. I took my Ubuntu disk to my desktop computer, since it didn't work as a live disk on my laptop. The desktop ran fine. So I tried installing to my external drive from there, in hopes that I could use it on my laptop as a bootable drive. I thought this because I have heard that Linux only needs a root and it will run, or something to that effect, meaning that you can move it or whatever.

So anyways, I didn't realize that I didn't need a swap partition, so I created a 1GB partition for that purpose. I ended up using GParted for all of this, as the Ubuntu partition manager wasn't the greatest. I kept trying to move forward, and kept getting errors.

Finally, I just set the root file system to "/", and it worked. It took a while to figure all of this out, especially since it kept mounting the drives and that made it not able to edit partitions in GParted. I ended up unplugging the drive and plugging it back in, since it wouldn't even let me unmount one of the partitions to make the changes.

Anyways, I got it installed, but now it won't run on my laptop. I have the bios set to look for USB hard drive operating systems BEFORE the system drive. It detects it, but gives me an error message and tells me to restart.

So now that I understand things, I'm going to put the live disk in my laptop and reboot, then use the text based installer to reinstall directly from my laptop.

I'm sure it won't work. But hey, I'm learning here. I think I'll put together a "newbie-to-newbie" tutorial/article series at The Audio Garden to help others avoid these hassles.

Wish me luck!

Brent

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:10 am

Well, I got everything installed using my laptop. Then, I rebooted and selected the OS using Grub. It went to the logo screen with the progress bar, but after that, went to a blank screen that I couldn't get out of. I tried ctrl+alt+f1, but no luck. I can't boot on this laptop apparently.

I was at a website where laptops are reported working according to model number(all by users themselves), and others in the same line as mine were there. So what could be stopping my laptop from being able to load Ubuntu? Any ideas?

Brent

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:55 am

koolkeys wrote:Well, I got everything installed using my laptop. Then, I rebooted and selected the OS using Grub. It went to the logo screen with the progress bar, but after that, went to a blank screen that I couldn't get out of. I tried ctrl+alt+f1, but no luck. I can't boot on this laptop apparently.

I was at a website where laptops are reported working according to model number(all by users themselves), and others in the same line as mine were there. So what could be stopping my laptop from being able to load Ubuntu? Any ideas?

Brent

Making sure your disk is jumpered as master, not drive-select or whatever,I would go back, and use the Mandriva install media as your partitioning tool, it is VERY easy to figure out compared to all others, works better, can properly resize windows etc...partitions and mountpoints you need

1. / the root partition...the rest are options...
2. /home this you won't reformat next time you install, saving reconfiguring all your accounts, settings etc
3. /win (or name of your choice) a fat32 filesystem partition to share files with windows, if you dual-boot
4. /swap Give yourself 512 meg for good luck, (you have been

warned

)

Once done formatting/resizing etc, you can just power-off the computer
(make sure disk activity is done) as Mandriva will busy itself for awhile pondering your fate,
before using the disk again, then power-up, and use your chosen media/install system on the new partitions. In Mandriva partitioning, use the 'Type'
button, and any 'Expert Mode" options to insure you see all the options.

If you have broadband access, I suggest the new Jacklab JAD openSUSE based audio distribution, should be much more stable than Ubuntu on your system, and will be asio-enabled, most linuxi being backwards compatible only with moonwalking chimps and those living north of the arctic circle

Hope this helps!

Edit: smb (smart-boot-manager is a tool to help booting stubborn systems, its on all the Linux Format mag cover media, and might be useful for the usb install/boot scenario)

Lovesquid · Post by **Lovesquid** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:03 pm

I highly recommend using gParted for partitioning. It's easy and even handles NTFS. Make sure you have your flags set so that Grub can boot the correct partition. The only partitions that are necessary are root and swap, the rest are all optional.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:49 pm

Probably too late to do any good, but I had zero luck with Feisty Fawn. Going "back" in time to Edgy Eft and everything was smoover.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:35 pm

Lunch Money wrote:Probably too late to do any good, but I had zero luck with Feisty Fawn. Going "back" in time to Edgy Eft and everything was smoover.

One wade through the ubuntu multimedia forums every couple months is enough to scare me off, and a lot of folks there followed your plan of attack...if they had a separate forum for just recording music, it would simplify things, but if you suggest something, and go back the next day to see if it helped, its 18 pages back, surrounded by hundreds of quake4 and 'dodgy-video-streams-ate-my-video-card' posts...

hseiken · Post by **hseiken** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:19 pm

I agree that the ubuntu forums kind of lump EVERYTHING regarding audio and video together...

As far as not working, I can't imagine what is happening, unless your lappy is possessed by the devil. I suspect that may be the case...

AllenPOPO · Post by **AllenPOPO** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:34 pm

i just installed "linux mint" on an amd turion64 drive. its 32 bit though....are you using 64 bit version? i would suggest giving linux mint "cassandra" a try, very nice package, with most if not all codecs out the box! installed without a hithc on my acer amd64 turion, live disk and all! i even have a crappy ati express video that eats my ram (which was advertised as 1 gig, but is really 768 due to the radeon stealing 128 mb of it)...still works well though

fake · Post by **fake** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:11 pm

Try the new version of 64 Studio: "Safe as Milk"

http://64studio.com/

64 bit and 32 bit as well.

The set-up and partitioning is simple.

Give it a spare partition and it will auto create the partitions and file system if you want.

Help with installing Ubuntu- what gives?