[HOWTO] wineasio+XT2 windows for the linux noob!!

[AllenPOPO]

yeah, i just got this acer laptop...basically went to best buy and got the cheapest thing goin' but wanted something amd so i got the amd64 over the pentium version of the same laptop (the amd64 is expandable to 4 gig ram, while the pentium version was only expandable to two...go figure..) anyway...got it home and played with vista for the first time really....yuck....so i wiped that off, and proceeded to install linux mint, an awesome ubuntu based distro that has a lot of goodies like codecs etc included....i actually think its been the best "straight off the linux iso" experience so far...it has some crappy hardware, but have gotten most of it to work, minus the wireless..but at least i can jack in to my school's ethernet for now (schools wireless is down anyway, probably the only place id use wireless so no biggie)....im gonna use my own how to method to install xt2+wineasio and see if i can at least work on some basic beats while im here....i'll post back on the performance of xt2 win and xt2 lin on it and when i have time i will add a post on how to install vst's and troubleshoot issues...school will keep me busy, but hopefully with laptop i can be more productive "on the road"


also feel free to post questions in this thread....i will try to answer them if i can or at least point people into the right direction....i may turn this into a webpage once i get my personal hosting sorted

[AllenPOPO]

well i've got the lappy working, its very tempermental though, and i assume it has to do with the "cheapness" of the stock card....it tooks some trial and error, but at least now i can sketch stuff out...i hvent quite gotten my old oxygen 8 controller to work via usb, which would help me as xt2 doesnt really let you use "trollo" like plugin that well....it keeps messing with shortcuts..hopefully i can figure out how to make the oxy 8 work via usb, and i will have a nice studio to go, complete with linux and win vst's and synths! more to come on this later, but now i am installing osx 10.4.6 in vmware and its....working!!! Textmate here i come

linux is awesome

[Z3R0T0N1N]

hey allenPOPO:

i use my oxygen8 with Linux. You need to install FXload if it's not already part of your distro.
Here's what i did after i got FXload:

*first you need to get the midisport stuff, so....

sudo mkdir /usr/share/midisport
sudo cd /usr/share/midisport/
sudo wget http://homepage3.nifty.com/StudioBreeze ... 829.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzf usbmidi-20040829.tar.gz
sudo mv usbmidi-20040829/testing/MidiSport/*.ihx ./
sudo rm -R usbmidi-20040829

*now you need to find out the port number that has been assigned to your oxy 8:

lsusb

*now something like this appears - it can be various - your values will be different:

Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0763:1110 Midiman

*now, put in for the fxload command:

sudo fxload -D /dev/bus/usb/002/002 -I ezusbmidi1x1.ihx

*note, here i put 002/002, because that's where mine showed up, but it changes each time you do this - i have no idea why!! - so you have to lsusb each time.

another issue is that every time you reboot, you need to do the fxload script, so memorize it or else find a way to make it permanent - there is a way, but i don't know it.

[AllenPOPO]

hey allenPOPO:

i use my oxygen8 with Linux. You need to install FXload if it's not already part of your distro.
Here's what i did after i got FXload:

*first you need to get the midisport stuff, so....

sudo mkdir /usr/share/midisport
sudo cd /usr/share/midisport/
sudo wget http://homepage3.nifty.com/StudioBreeze ... 829.tar.gz
sudo tar -xzf usbmidi-20040829.tar.gz
sudo mv usbmidi-20040829/testing/MidiSport/*.ihx ./
sudo rm -R usbmidi-20040829

*now you need to find out the port number that has been assigned to your oxy 8:

lsusb

*now something like this appears - it can be various - your values will be different:

Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0763:1110 Midiman

*now, put in for the fxload command:

sudo fxload -D /dev/bus/usb/002/002 -I ezusbmidi1x1.ihx

*note, here i put 002/002, because that's where mine showed up, but it changes each time you do this - i have no idea why!! - so you have to lsusb each time.

another issue is that every time you reboot, you need to do the fxload script, so memorize it or else find a way to make it permanent - there is a way, but i don't know it.

thanks!!! will try this soon....eek...talk about annoying, eh? but at least it can work...for the amount of times i'll actually use it, this little chain of commands is nothing...putting this into a text file now. Thanks again Z3R0T0N1N!

[Scot Solida]

well i've got the lappy working, its very tempermental though, and i assume it has to do with the "cheapness" of the stock card....it tooks some trial and error, but at least now i can sketch stuff out...i hvent quite gotten my old oxygen 8 controller to work via usb, which would help me as xt2 doesnt really let you use "trollo" like plugin that well....it keeps messing with shortcuts..hopefully i can figure out how to make the oxy 8 work via usb, and i will have a nice studio to go, complete with linux and win vst's and synths! more to come on this later, but now i am installing osx 10.4.6 in vmware and its....working!!! Textmate here i come

linux is awesome

AllenPOPO, I followed your excellent guide on my studio machine and whaddya know? It worked great! In fact, the Windows energyXT2 is working far, far better with Wineasio than the Linux version did with ALSA. I get no MIDI delays or missed or hung notes now, all of which plagued the Linux version on my machine. This has given me the confidence that I needed to use this OS.

Conversely, I have had little luck with my laptop (Inspiron w/ AMD Turion 64). I was never able to get the Linux version to install (I assume because of the 64-bit architecture...though the studio machine is also). However, I did get the Windows version to open via Wine on the laptop. Can't get any sound or MIDI input at all, though. I would love to know how you got your onboard card working.

Also...what is this about OSX? No way. Really? I must check this out!

[AllenPOPO]

Also...what is this about OSX? No way. Really? I must check this out!

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its tempermental...but long story short its a "hacked" version of macintosh for sse2/3 and amd/intel....i would only need it for textmate anyway, so....i dunno. regarding the legality of this its kinda of a fuzzy area, i tend to say its for educational purposes, as i have no plans to get a mac i just want textmate. i will post a more detailed explanation of how i got my lappy working with jack and stuff, but now im off to go work on my flash project. glad that my howto helped

[audiojunkie]

Hey AllenPOPO,

This is probably a stupid question, but please forgive me and remember that I am a
Linux newbie...

Do I need to also have internet access in order to use Apt/get, or is there a way to
download these files and install them some other way?

--Sean

[LBN]

Hackintosh!

How well does it run under VMware?

[AllenPOPO]

audiojunkie: you can get the packages and then install them, but make sure you get all dependencies. apt-get is best with a net connection no doubt about that....


Scot: i think i spoke too soon on my lappy...it just doesnt like to connect to jack server when i choose duplex. it will load "playback only" all day, but i just cant seem to figure out why this crappy card cant "duplex"....argh im just gonna have to get a better audio card i believe. which sucks, because im so broke right now...i'll let you know if i find a solution, although your "solution" will most likely differ from mine...


LBN: not very well atm it doesnt recognize usb and does funny stuff with my cd drive, so its really nothing serious until i can get it to recognize some stuff better. to make matters worse, vmware tools cannot be installed and shared folders doesnt seem to work...it may work better with a "native" install, but im not sure i want to do that. if i can get textmate for it, i'll be happy because i love that app

[fandango]

Well... I've just had a great time using XT2 in linux. Not how I intended though.

Instead of the native linux version, I was running XT2 with WineASIO, MIDI working, my favourite VSTs working and, get this, the graphics are faster than when I run it in Windows! No jerkyness with the MIDI editor.


Ah well, it's still moving in the right direction.

Oh, and thanks to all the WineASIO people.

[AllenPOPO]

its one of those things you have to 'see in action" then you go YESSSS!!!! it can only get better and its pretty good right now so

[Radek]

Well... I've just had a great time using XT2 in linux. Not how I intended though.

Instead of the native linux version, I was running XT2 with WineASIO, MIDI working, my favourite VSTs working and, get this, the graphics are faster than when I run it in Windows! No jerkyness with the MIDI editor.

Actually I found a native Linux version to have a very slow GUI. Dozens of clips and it starts to crawl where under wineasio it's always smooth. Go figure...

Ah well, it's still moving in the right direction.

Oh, and thanks to all the WineASIO people.

I'm shocked because compatibility and performance is almost flawless using EnergyXT2 under it!

its one of those things you have to 'see in action" then you go YESSSS!!!! it can only get better and its pretty good right now so

The ideal will be when native Linux version gets build in Jack support and VST/Wine wrappers. Some native ports of VSTs will not hurt either.

[AllenPOPO]

yeah...maybe jorgen would be generous to make an open source "comp" and then it would appear much faster...just as he open sourced the "libaam"

[Radek]

yeah...maybe jorgen would be generous to make an open source "comp" and then it would appear much faster...just as he open sourced the "libaam"

Open "comps"?

Well... it'd be possible to replace Jack with EnergyXT2 then and "comps" could act as the new plugins standard.

[Lump]

Oh, and thanks to all the WineASIO people.

thx... I think it is OK when I take this for the JackLab Community /Drumfix. We always look for the best way to integrate VST in Linux. Next step will be a full VST/w32 environment out of the box.

btw:
JAD 1.0 beta2 HOWTO WINEASIO (short version)

1. download and install JAD 1.0 beta2 DVD

2. open xterm:

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regsvr32 wineasio.dll 

3. open xterm:

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wine /path/to/energyXT2.exe 

4. make music.

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