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stanlea · Post by **stanlea** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:24 pm

Not exactly the same thing, ??

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:36 pm

tony tony chopper wrote:...Then once it was done I started a multiband version, which appeared to give much better results. Added some non-compression but mastering-related features & called it 'Maximus' (as you can see in YWS).

YWS is a very very good plugin!!!
Somehow this guy is allowing me to adjust my pre-loudness right befor my final mastering limiter (MPL1Pro-SE) and easily get into K-8, K-7, and even K-6 without sounding crushed. I'm not saying I want to live there but as an experiment I've always wondered how to get my tracks as loud as commercial tracks. This just did it, without YWS things sound too crushed and pumping, with YWS at a very low settng (1 or 2 bars) somehow the body of the track is inflated and puffed out like a big ole bullfrog. Then the mastering limiter can do it's thing...

You're saying that YWS is kind of a Maximus-Lite version?
I can hear that you're messing around with the stereo phasing/field, what else are you doing with your 'non-compression but mastering-related features'? You may not want to say at this point but later on I'm pretty curious whats going on in there. Of course I'm interested in any marketing details, release dates, and price of the final Maximus release. This is just what we needed in native-land for mastering!

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:44 pm

YWS's knob is the 'mix' (at first implemented for parallel compression, but that's what I chose to link the knob to) of the 3 bands. But afterwards there's still a limiter.
So if you set the big knob to zero, you're basically using a limiter along with a little soft saturation.

Also the idea of the A preset was to give some kind of 'radio sound'. Hence the big bass & overcompression.

tonAP · Post by **tonAP** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:52 pm

So if you set the big knob to zero, you're basically using a limiter along with a little soft saturation.

It was the first try I gave it and... it does the job.
Plus the Low band frequency: not bad at all!

Also the idea of the A preset was to give some kind of 'radio sound'. Hence the big bass & overcompression.

That's cool but (it depends on mix stuff and own taste ofcourse) i prefer the B preset: more "transparent" if you compare A/B "maximized" with the original source.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:06 pm

joshhunsaker wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote:My truck runneth over.

something tells me you like psalms

Me thinks thou speakest truth.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:15 pm

jens wrote:
joshhunsaker wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote:My truck runneth over.

something tells me you like psalms
Me thinks thou speakest truth.

And multitrucked puns!

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:18 pm

confirming inclusion in the July issue of CM, which I finally found here in the US, in July #114.

BFunKu · Post by **BFunKu** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:34 am

stanlea wrote:Not exactly the same thing, ??

There both Maximizers/Enhancers/Limiters

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:22 am

BFunKu wrote:
stanlea wrote:Not exactly the same thing, ??
There both Maximizers/Enhancers/Limiters

To my ear BitterSweet and YWS sound and act totally different, I'm using YWS as my pre-limiter maximizer at this point it's pretty impressive even at low [mix] knob settings. For example I don't believe BitterSweet rebalances the bass stereo field. I'll have to pull out BitterSweet again to compare as I'm remembering from memory (as opposed to BS I guess...

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jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:18 am

BFunKu wrote:
stanlea wrote:Not exactly the same thing, ??
There both Maximizers/Enhancers/Limiters

BitterSweet is neither a maximizer nor an enhancer nor a limiter.

It's a transient-shaping tool, just like Dominion (while Dominion can shape both attack and release, BitterSweet can only change the Attack).

In any case BitterSweet is neither working gain-dependent nor frequency-dependent.

joshhunsaker · Post by **joshhunsaker** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:19 am

Shane Sanders wrote:
jens wrote:
joshhunsaker wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote:My truck runneth over.

something tells me you like psalms
Me thinks thou speakest truth.
And multitrucked puns!

Proverbs 23:13,14 (kjv)
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Isn't the bible great? (don't know if this works with DHR)

p.s. if anyone wants me to save their soul from hell i've got a rod right here

krank · Post by **krank** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:32 pm

Lets talk more about this; it sure makes things loud and colourful. 'A' seems just for fun, 'D' is way too pumping. I'm considering using a high percentage of either 'B' or 'C' on a full mix instead of cranking a regular limiter. Thoughts?

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:48 pm

YWS is always a regular limiter, regardless of the knob's value. So the knob at zero makes YWS just a limiter.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:08 pm

krank wrote:Lets talk more about this; it sure makes things loud and colourful. 'A' seems just for fun, 'D' is way too pumping. I'm considering using a high percentage of either 'B' or 'C' on a full mix instead of cranking a regular limiter. Thoughts?

I really depends on the material what preset works best - this can be dramatically different with different songs - e.g. this one

http://www.xt-user.com/node/106

has been mastered with the 'A'-preset.

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:31 pm

tony tony chopper wrote:Maximus offers 59 parameters btw, a free (Sytrus-like) envelope-based curve for each band, and a complete visual feedback of every compression curve.

So YouWaShock is just a taste of what 'Maximus' can do?

Is 'Maximus' just a working title or is it a real upcoming product by IL? Any release date for 'Maximus' yet?

Hi new to special maximizer!