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liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:38 am

Toro Rojo wrote:the mandragora track is Akkord from reaktor electronic instruments vol.2

----All those tracks sounded like a Reaktor synth droning on over a beat to me. One of them had a 2nd percussive beat come in around the middle, but I didn't really notice anything much going on other than that, cept the already mentioned delays/reverbs etc.

Jeff

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:39 pm

mateo- Feed me more Basic Channel secrets!

I always wonder 2 things about their sound: That sharp crack at the beginning of many of their stabs (sounds like a quick pw env), and the compression on their bass in their later rhythm & sound stuff. It just has such a puff on the top of the amp. Can't find anything else like it

Too hard to describe too.

Toro Rojo - thanks!

mateo · Post by **mateo** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:47 pm

Sorry, I wish I knew more! The crack you're describing probably comes from the synth itself. As for the compression, I'm quite sure they use a fair amount of compression over the whole mix, due to the way the background noise pumps with the bass.

mjudge55 · Post by **mjudge55** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:56 pm

This topic is really interesting to me -- I love Basic Channel, Rhythm & Sound, and Chain Reaction stuff. I've always had trouble getting the sound myself.

Mateo, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on what it is about the Prophet VS that gives it that sound. Is it just the alternative waveforms? If the unprocessed sound is just a quick stab then there's not much time for sweeping the wavetables... I'm just wondering because while I don't have a Prophet VS or a VST simulation, I do have a microQ, which has two wavetable oscillators. I'm wondering if that could be used to get this sound...

Somebody mentioned Akkord form Reaktor. I've heard it and it does seem capable of some very dub techno sounds.

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:56 pm

you'll probably need a bit more than a Prophet VS to get their sound. these guys are hard core fans of dub and i would no doubt think that they have used spring reverbs, tape delays, analog phasers, and outboard filters in very experimental ways. and don't forget the analog reel to reel.

mjudge55 · Post by **mjudge55** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:48 pm

Yeah, since the unprocessed sound source is just a stab, no doubt a lot of the character comes from the effects.

Timbre · Post by **Timbre** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:01 pm

I produce exactly that style of music since years now, and its all about chords, delays and reverb. Ive found that the ohmboys delay is very good for this. Recently i use Ferrox a lot for a true tape feeling. For the chords, even the simplest standard vst synth can do that. These are some of my tracks :

http://bram.smartelectronix.com/david/A ... _box_4.mp3
http://bram.smartelectronix.com/david/D ... aths_9.mp3

This is a dj mix, i produced all the tracks, mixed by a friend dj:
http://bram.smartelectronix.com/david/A ... ador_S.mp3

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:30 pm

Been making stuff insipred by that type for a while too. Nice to see people on KVR in this genre coming together

Thanks Timbre! Good tunes.
Will play on my iPod driving playlist for weeks I'm sure!

adl · Post by **adl** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:32 pm

Nice tracks indeed Timbre!

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:47 pm

Nice tunes mate

mjudge55 · Post by **mjudge55** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:04 pm

Nice, Timbre! Care to go into your process at all? Do you just set up the delay and verb as separate sends? In series? What about feeding them back to each other?

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:30 pm

Y'all would probably like the tunes on kyoto-sound

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:01 am

Timbre wrote:These are some of my tracks

oh nice, i like the second track.

needs just a little dirt though.

soma · Post by **soma** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:40 pm

diverdee wrote:Y'all would probably like the tunes on kyoto-sound

nice.

soma · Post by **soma** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:39 pm

Anyone taken a "stab"

at getting that rhythm and sound pumping bass?

deep/dub techno sound