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Permutated · Post by **Permutated** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:52 am

Hey guys,

I've been scratching my head about this for some time.

How do they get thick combinator sounds in Reason 3? I've tried everything; inputting to maelstrom filters, using distortion, hard panning and splitting channels, line mixing...

I'm about to give up. I just want a thick, analog warm sound out of subtractor, like the one that filters into the maelstrom of "DNB wet wrap" in the digital bass section of the combinator patches.

Ugh.

How do they do it??

Spookyrockstar · Post by **Spookyrockstar** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:58 am

Hey Neighbor,

Try running your favorite bass through the tape saturation, and then maybe through the Unison for good measure. Having another Subtractor in the combinator running a pure sine wave always adds thickness.

good luck!

Permutated · Post by **Permutated** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:59 pm

OMG this is the most NUB question I've ever asked:

Unison just doubles/triples a sound does it not?

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:05 pm

Permutated wrote:OMG this is the most NUB question I've ever asked:

Unison just doubles/triples a sound does it not?

Correct.

One of the things that the Combinator does is COMBINE modules so you can layer them. If you layer several Subtractors with the same sound but slightly detune them and even pan them in different places (by also putting a mixer in the combinator which you can do) then you can get some really fat sounds.

My company makes refills for Reason that take advantage of the Combinator and has a lot of really great analog sounds you might also want to check out: http://www.esoundz.com/sounds2.php?p=re ... =0&stiid=0

Good luck!

mono_ton · Post by **mono_ton** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:32 pm

dont know irf that helps: i upped you 4 of my bass sounds

have fun

http://www.cr68.com/contest/combinator/

o also made u a small demo with one of those patches...all made in reason:

http://www.cr68.com/contest/combinator/example.mp3

Permutated · Post by **Permutated** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:15 pm

You guys rock, I love the positivity of this forum and how helpful everyone seems to be.

Thanks for the patches

aeron · Post by **aeron** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:32 am

Yes, Chorus/Flanger and unison are always helpful, also the compressor and even scream can be used to add some beef to your sounds.

But yes, another technique for a fatter sound is to detune the oscillators equal amounts in opposite directions. (e.g. one -4 cents, one +4 cents) Although this is essentially similar to a unison, it is slightly more accurate.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:29 pm

permutated; one of the things that i found out the hard way was that if you open reason with a blank project and then just start building your rack without connecting it through to a mixer (to handle stereo), if you combine the rack as a combinator it outputs in mono and to only 1 output channel in your host (if you rewire anyway). be sure you work with stereo by passing your entire rack out through a stereo mixer (can even be the minimalistic line mixer).

for a very long time i could not understand why my racks sounded so flat, and then i realized DUH it's MONO!

if you are already working in stereo chorus really helps and good panning / doubling of the instruments helps as well.

good luck.

Combinators In Reason 3; HOW DO THEY GET THICK SOUNDS?