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brok landers wrote:5.99.005 ...
Ok, I'm running 5.96.04 from March of 2006. Older driver.

What is the date on the driver on the driver screen? Matrox shows a new driver from June 2007 I believe.

Also, run "DXdiag" from the Run... command prompt.

Does it show any problems at the bottom of the DirectX file tab?

Does the Display test have any issues?

What version of DirectX are you running? It says at the bottom of the Sytems tab. I'm on 9.0c.

Devon
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I have tried not to answer because I did not want to seem negative, but I am also involved in 3D game creation and animation. Although Matrox USED to be a bigger name in the likes of non-linear video with some of their high end cards, currently, they are massively behind the times and no one uses them for 3D at all - mostly because tons of people complain about the graphics drivers not working well with either D3D or OpenGL.

If you plan on using WIVI, you may want to invest in a vanilla Nvidia or ATI card - which will set you back a massive $40 USD.

Mike

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DevonB wrote:
brok landers wrote:5.99.005 ...
Ok, I'm running 5.96.04 from March of 2006. Older driver.

What is the date on the driver on the driver screen? Matrox shows a new driver from June 2007 I believe.
it says 13.march.2007
DevonB wrote:Also, run "DXdiag" from the Run... command prompt.

Does it show any problems at the bottom of the DirectX file tab?
no problems found.
DevonB wrote:Does the Display test have any issues?

no problems found.
DevonB wrote:What version of DirectX are you running? It says at the bottom of the Sytems tab. I'm on 9.0c.
here also. 9.0.c (4.09.0000.0904)
regards,
brok landers
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Karmacomposer wrote:I have tried not to answer because I did not want to seem negative, but I am also involved in 3D game creation and animation. Although Matrox USED to be a bigger name in the likes of non-linear video with some of their high end cards, currently, they are massively behind the times and no one uses them for 3D at all - mostly because tons of people complain about the graphics drivers not working well with either D3D or OpenGL.

If you plan on using WIVI, you may want to invest in a vanilla Nvidia or ATI card - which will set you back a massive $40 USD.

Mike
oh, that's no problem ... i don't take this negative at all, don't worry ... :)
well, my card is old, no doubt ... and it might be of course true what you say ...
however, i won't buy a new card, just because a demo doesn't run ...
it's not the cost i'm worrying about, but i'm in the middle of an important project, i can't afford any trouble with my otherwise stable system at all ...
i never _whatsoever_ had problems with the card, and, just like i said, a hardcore 3d program like blender just runs perfectly here ... and not only this 3d app, there are more, i tried ... they all run with no problems at all ...
also, there must be a way, as devon says the plugin runs just fine on his card ...
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

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brok landers wrote: like i said, i can't access the other modes anymore, as the plugin doesn't load anymore ...
Hi again Brok,

You don't need to start the plugin to access the other modes. You can reach WIVI settings from the start menu, and the same executable can be found in WIVI's installation folder. At this point, I think your best bet is to use Software rendering.

This may be far off, but are you running multiple desktops? Not that multiple desktops normally would be a problem with WIVI, but it sounds suspicious that your card doesn't support double buffering. I'm thinking that perhaps your card has run out of video memory due to multiple desktops, not allowing WIVI to create a backbuffer, or something like that. Anway, you shouldn't have this problem in Software rendering mode even if you run out of video memory completely.
Arne @ noteperformer.com

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WIVI Brass 1 Update 2007-08-10

Trial Edition

Many of these improvements also apply to the Trial Edition, which have been updated as well. Download the new Trial Edition from here.


Tonal improvements

The overall tone of all Brass 1 instruments and mutes have been significantly improved. This is especially significant in the low brass, and when close up to instruments.


Spatial/environment improvements

The environment now have layer functions that can be used to boost the low frequencies, to emulate room modes. Most importantly, the internal presets have been improved using this functionality.

A few new environment presets have also been made available, with the purpose of allowing better blending with sampled instruments/orchestras.


New instrument features

Drift into tune is a new parameter which is used in combination with the "pitch randomizer" parameter already present in the player. The pitch randomizer introduces randomness in the pitch of repeated notes. When the "drift into tune" parameter also is enabled, that random pitch deviation will decrease over time, giving an illusion of players that intonate.

The start/end values of the Wah-Wahs are now customizable. This can be used to give the Wah-Wahs inverse behavior, or you can focus the Wah-Wah to operate only around some certain sweet spot.

Also, some slight tweaks have been made to the internals of some instruments. For instance, it's now possible to play flutter tongue the French horns manually, using a breath or wind controller. In the past, this has been difficult.
Arne @ noteperformer.com

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insane.

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mensturbation wrote:insane.
absolutely

...just considering the description of the shown improovements and getting in mind, what it means as tech evolution, before having a glance on it playability aspect

...downloading

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keyman_sam wrote:
Energy-xt can become the sonar/cubase/live killer
For some of us, it has been that for a long time already.

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Great stuff!
Q: what of this can be checked in the trial version?

thanks
Frank

Wallander wrote:WIVI Brass 1 Update 2007-08-10

Trial Edition

Many of these improvements also apply to the Trial Edition, which have been updated as well. Download the new Trial Edition from here.


Tonal improvements

The overall tone of all Brass 1 instruments and mutes have been significantly improved. This is especially significant in the low brass, and when close up to instruments.


Spatial/environment improvements

The environment now have layer functions that can be used to boost the low frequencies, to emulate room modes. Most importantly, the internal presets have been improved using this functionality.

A few new environment presets have also been made available, with the purpose of allowing better blending with sampled instruments/orchestras.


New instrument features

Drift into tune is a new parameter which is used in combination with the "pitch randomizer" parameter already present in the player. The pitch randomizer introduces randomness in the pitch of repeated notes. When the "drift into tune" parameter also is enabled, that random pitch deviation will decrease over time, giving an illusion of players that intonate.

The start/end values of the Wah-Wahs are now customizable. This can be used to give the Wah-Wahs inverse behavior, or you can focus the Wah-Wah to operate only around some certain sweet spot.

Also, some slight tweaks have been made to the internals of some instruments. For instance, it's now possible to play flutter tongue the French horns manually, using a breath or wind controller. In the past, this has been difficult.

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FrankT wrote:Great stuff!
Q: what of this can be checked in the trial version?

thanks
Frank
Hi Frank,

The tonal improvements have been worked into the Trial Edition instruments, too, the default environment in the Trial Edition is now the default hall of the new Professional Edition player, meaning it has some bass boost applied, and a better overall sound.

Also, if you're good with a breath controller, you can try manual flutter on the French horn. :)
Arne @ noteperformer.com

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Cool, thanks for the info. Any chance the tuba will be included in the trial version as well?
You know, I have a vision of crazy breakbeats combined with a mad tuba, and I'd like to do a quick acid test... :)

Wallander wrote:
FrankT wrote:Great stuff!
Q: what of this can be checked in the trial version?

thanks
Frank
Hi Frank,

The tonal improvements have been worked into the Trial Edition instruments, too, the default environment in the Trial Edition is now the default hall of the new Professional Edition player, meaning it has some bass boost applied, and a better overall sound.

Also, if you're good with a breath controller, you can try manual flutter on the French horn. :)

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FrankT wrote:Cool, thanks for the info. Any chance the tuba will be included in the trial version as well?
You know, I have a vision of crazy breakbeats combined with a mad tuba, and I'd like to do a quick acid test... :)
Hi again Frank,

Sorry, but probably not. The other instruments have so much more content (more instruments, a large number of sordinos) in the Professional Edition, but the tuba is almost always used as a solo instrument and the mute is very uncommon, so a Trial Edition tuba would be pretty much equal to the Professional Edition tuba. I hope that makes sense. :)
Arne @ noteperformer.com

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ok, Arne, I understand. What about a Tuba giveaway then? But seriously: it is the first time I am actually considering brass in my music. The main reason is the playability of your VST, which allows me to work in realtime with brass - which I was never able to do with purely sample-based brass.

Wallander wrote:
FrankT wrote:Cool, thanks for the info. Any chance the tuba will be included in the trial version as well?
You know, I have a vision of crazy breakbeats combined with a mad tuba, and I'd like to do a quick acid test... :)
Hi again Frank,

Sorry, but probably not. The other instruments have so much more content (more instruments, a large number of sordinos) in the Professional Edition, but the tuba is almost always used as a solo instrument and the mute is very uncommon, so a Trial Edition tuba would be pretty much equal to the Professional Edition tuba. I hope that makes sense. :)

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