Well not sure that Bootsy was around during flashlight, and it sounds more keyboard than bass.
PM me if you want.
Regards.
Any thoughts about how to devise a Bootsy Collins...
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Tucson Arizona USA
I once lived in a dorm with Vic Wooten. Bela was a curiosity that would come up from time time, mainly because we'd play New Grass Revival and any Telluride tape would have him. But when Victor and Futch joined the band, they added a whole nother dimension.Meffy wrote:Whoa! Another Flecktones enthusiast? Here I thought I was the only one twisted enough to like future bluegrass. Interesting insight there, hadn't occurred to me.
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- KVRist
- 389 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
Yeah I believe Flashlight was the first song with a synth bass all the way through played by Bernie Worrell.tar42 wrote:Well not sure that Bootsy was around during flashlight, and it sounds more keyboard than bass.
PM me if you want.
Regards.
Basicly the origin behind funk bass slapping is Larry Graham from Sly & The Family Stone. He got his slapping and picking style from when he used to play with his mother he explained he would make the bass sound like both a bass and the drums. Doot Dat De Dat
Listen to their single "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again)" that was the birth of that slap funk shit.From what I hear in funk bass they go up octaves alot. like play a low C for example than play a higher slapped C and the B below it right after that. Go up and down. But hey I'm not a bass player I just try to do this on keys.
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 14 Jan, 2007
Bernie Worrell,Larry Graham, Bootsy & co are all fantastic bass players.
The bass lines are lots of octaves. They create a lot of groove by the note length creating a pulse feeling for the bass line.
The bass lines are lots of octaves. They create a lot of groove by the note length creating a pulse feeling for the bass line.
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- KVRian
- 864 posts since 9 Jul, 2001 from Chester County PA, USA
With slap-bass technique there's a lot of octave and slide-ins as mentioned, but with certain styles there's a lot of "dead note" percussive playing with the left fretting hand (or right, if you're a lefty) patting/damping the strings for certain thumps or clicks...you basically wind up doing very percussive parts between the left and right hand almost like drum rudiments.
Of course, dumb-ass that I am, I spent years doing it on a fretless bass when that was all I had...just doesn't have that "snap"....
As long as we're discussing great funk players, let's not forget Stanley Clarke ("School Days", which almost every other bassist I know, knows how to play at least the opening riff..it's like some kind of right of passage
), and Louis Johnson from The Brothers Johnson ("Strawberry Letter #23", aww yeah...). 
Of course, dumb-ass that I am, I spent years doing it on a fretless bass when that was all I had...just doesn't have that "snap"....
As long as we're discussing great funk players, let's not forget Stanley Clarke ("School Days", which almost every other bassist I know, knows how to play at least the opening riff..it's like some kind of right of passage
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- R.I.P.
- 7301 posts since 23 May, 2006 from in between a cornfield and a river
yeah, flashlight was bernie worrel on the moog bass...and if that's one's goal, i always thought "flashlight" was almost like a bass version of vocal scat, like a walking bass that you could hum...in other words, just friggen wing it, keep it in your mind, play the notes you hear/feel...just practise until it sounds right....tar42 wrote:Well not sure that Bootsy was around during flashlight, and it sounds more keyboard than bass.
PM me if you want.
Regards.
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- KVRian
- 1214 posts since 10 Aug, 2005
Darn it, why hasn't anyone mentioned the basic fundemental rule of funk?
IT'S ON THE ONE.
Instead of pop/rock where the empathised beats are the two and four, you need to put the weight of the groove on the one and three.
Not sure what I mean?
Count in 4/4 and on every first beat of the bar, play harder, more agressive, or perhaps two 8th notes. You will hear the beginnings of a groove.
Now develop on from this concept, if you are doing it right, you'll instinctively want to nod your head to your groove, and hopefully the same for others around you.
Have fun
IT'S ON THE ONE.
Instead of pop/rock where the empathised beats are the two and four, you need to put the weight of the groove on the one and three.
Not sure what I mean?
Count in 4/4 and on every first beat of the bar, play harder, more agressive, or perhaps two 8th notes. You will hear the beginnings of a groove.
Now develop on from this concept, if you are doing it right, you'll instinctively want to nod your head to your groove, and hopefully the same for others around you.
Have fun
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- KVRian
- 511 posts since 1 Jun, 2005 from ireland
its quite simple- first play for years until you are able to transcend 'reality' and asscend to funk heavan - then return to earth with said bassline- like a bee collecting the nectar of the universe-
bish bosh.
bish bosh.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Don't you know it! I'm a big Flecktones fan as well. One of the best live shows I've been to!Meffy wrote:Whoa! Another Flecktones enthusiast? Here I thought I was the only one twisted enough to like future bluegrass. Interesting insight there, hadn't occurred to me.
Okay, back on topic.
