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keizo · Post by **keizo** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:31 pm

I strongly expect IntelMac correspondence of "Cheeze Machine" and "Ticky Clav". Please please make it. I ask. You may become shareware.

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:25 am

If I ever get a mac... Yeah... Although I'm really bothered by the fact I would need to get 2 of them just to support all mac users...

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:58 pm

if it makes you feel any better, I will be buying rhino if that ever makes it to mac (intel mac, actually)

Couldn't you just get a new mac mini and an old mac mini?

mauko · Post by **mauko** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:02 am

Well Apulsoft ported both of them:
CheezeMachine and TickyClav are Universal Binary now:
http://www.apulsoft.ch/freeports/

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:57 am

keizo wrote:I strongly expect IntelMac correspondence of "Cheeze Machine" and "Ticky Clav". Please please make it. I ask. You may become shareware.

God I'm tired of Mac people "demanding" developers support their overpriced platform. You bought a Mac to be cool so now live with the fact that it doesn't have the same support as a PC. To demand or even ask a developer to spend hours of time to port their plugin to Mac just to gain access to a tiny percentage of the market is unreasonable.

MonacoMan · Post by **MonacoMan** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:17 pm

Teksonik wrote:
God I'm tired of Mac people "demanding" developers support their overpriced platform. You bought a Mac to be cool so now live with the fact that it doesn't have the same support as a PC. To demand or even ask a developer to spend hours of time to port their plugin to Mac just to gain access to a tiny percentage of the market is unreasonable.

well, at least we (the MAC users) have the money to pay for our plugins...

z15 · Post by **z15** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:35 pm

Teksonik wrote:
keizo wrote:I strongly expect IntelMac correspondence of "Cheeze Machine" and "Ticky Clav". Please please make it. I ask. You may become shareware.
God I'm tired of Mac people "demanding" developers support their overpriced platform. You bought a Mac to be cool so now live with the fact that it doesn't have the same support as a PC. To demand or even ask a developer to spend hours of time to port their plugin to Mac just to gain access to a tiny percentage of the market is unreasonable.

No. You are touchy, have a personal disgust towards Macs and/or Mac users either because stupid vocal minority or stupid Apple hype marketing, and fail to understand that the guy who is asking does not speak English as his native tongue, very apparently has to resort to a dictionary or automatic translation, and is simply trying to ask whether the plugins could be ported to UB. Which someone (namely, Adrian), in fact, has just recently done without anyone paying him anything (even though the guy who asks was willing to pay if needed)... although he would probably very much appreciate any thanks and voluntary donations.

God I'm tired of people failing to understand that computers are just goddamn tools and it isn't a choice of religion or lifestyle to pick something you like. And god I'm tired of people who have to take up the "PCs are this and Macs are that and users of platform X are snobby / stupid / non-professional" -point just to prove something. Sheesh. Since when is it unreasonable to ask someone to support the platform you use? It's up to the developer to decide whether it will happen (either for fun or financial reasons) and I've certainly seen a lot more unreasonable requests than "please support the platform I use, I'm willing to pay for it". And once again, it seems some developers earn 50/50 in sales from OSX vs Windows despite the differences in market percentage, so it isn't even a completely stupid idea to provide for both platforms, so even that argument sounds bad.

Signed, an OSX + Windows + Linux user who tries to be nice, mild-mannered and polite if only comments like that didn't make him cry.

quantize · Post by **quantize** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:38 pm

Teksonik wrote: God I'm tired of Mac people "demanding" developers support their overpriced platform. You bought a Mac to be cool so now live with the fact that it doesn't have the same support as a PC. To demand or even ask a developer to spend hours of time to port their plugin to Mac just to gain access to a tiny percentage of the market is unreasonable.

Ok you have one fair point, it's rude for anyone to 'demand' freeware plugins to be ported..Of course, whether you or any of the usual dimwits on the KVR forum like it, the cold hard fact is Mac OSX remains (and looks like it will remain for a very long time) the prefered platform of many professionals in the music industry - those most equipped to pay for plugins etc

'Cool' and all that shit is for people thick enough to actually care about platform wars. It's old, it's done. It doesn't matter.

z15 · Post by **z15** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:41 pm

I mean, you obviously have spent at least as much time on the internet as I have, and still fail to recognize Engrish on sight?

Teksonik, sorry, I don't mean to offend but I get kind of mad about posts like that. Almost as much as from posts by people who think Macs are totally awesome and flawless and 250% more Professional than PCs. They don't do anything but feed the platform war that is stupid in the first place.

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:17 pm

Well the good news is, the platform war is over, at least as far as my plugs are concerned - I'm just waiting for my imac to arrive :p

'Tick

quantize · Post by **quantize** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:52 pm

Great news!, I'm typing on one now...holler if I can be of any assistance, there could be a niggle or two (i had some firewire oddness at first), but otherwise they're terrific machines...ive got Tiger on one boot and Leopard on another for it..testing cubase 4 and props apps before we (hopefully!) buy mac pro towers in the new year

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:13 pm

Yeah I may well ask. Sounds like I'll have to wait a bit before moving to Leopard, since my audio/midi interface (m-audio audiophile firewire) still doesn't have drivers for Leopard. I just got parallel desktop too, since I'll still have to run things in the windows world

'Tick

quantize · Post by **quantize** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:43 pm

Aha well I can be of immediate assistance there! - you have nothing to fear as far as that goes..I have a Firewire Solo on this iMac and the drivers that came across from the Tiger drive (when i copied user and apps from it) during the Leopard install are working perfectly with it! ....We have an Audiophile on a pc elsewhere, i know they use the same set of FW drivers.

I'd go further in fact and say those drivers actually work a LOT better in Leopard (FireWire_OSX_1.8.2)

10.5.2 is just around the corner, it's still probably wiser to wait a few weeks before going there anyay. The migration was extremely smooth from Tiger i must say.

Big Tick wrote:Yeah I may well ask. Sounds like I'll have to wait a bit before moving to Leopard, since my audio/midi interface (m-audio audiophile firewire) still doesn't have drivers for Leopard. I just got parallel desktop too, since I'll still have to run things in the windows world

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Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:50 pm

OK - I was under the impression (reading horror stories from various forums on the web) that Audiophile FW didn't go along well with Leopard...

'Tick

quantize · Post by **quantize** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:59 pm

Big Tick wrote:OK - I was under the impression (reading horror stories from various forums on the web) that Audiophile FW didn't go along well with Leopard...

'Tick

Unless there's something peculiar to the Audiophile as opposed to the Solo I don't know about - I woud be warey on what you read, we use MOTU stuff in the studios but M-Audio on the office and laptop - they've certainly had issues in the past with their drivers but I can say for the last year, and certainly under Leopard they've been extremely good. I havent had a single restart or drop out so far. Firewire stuff can be a little fussy as im sure you're well aware so sometimes its about any devices in a chain as much as drivers.

On the update..

they're all free except for the major iterations like 10.4.0 or 10.5.0

Also let me be the first to recommend to you the using the 'Combo' updaters (which are larger full installers also freely DL from Apple) rather than the automatic system 'Software Update' - found under the Apple menu in the Finder
is a slightly (though not completely necessary) more prudent way to go for DAW users. At least this has been the general wisdom on the Mac Cubase forums which has a handful of pretty smart users.

As far as Windows goes (we also have a Macbook Pro with both OS's) i would strongly recommend you take the Bootcamp path (Parallels is good and does support bootcamp partitions) but performance is significantly better running Windows natively.
After all Bootcamp is nothing but a partitioning tool, installation assistant and bunch of hardware drivers for Windows.

Hopefully i'm not bombarding you, but these are paths I've just trodden

BigTick

KVR Audio

Make a UB version of Cheeze Machine.