Activation in Multiple OS's
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- KVRist
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Hey,
I have a question regarding activating both ST2 and SS2 in multiple boot partition OS's. I have XP with Sonar and Vista with Sonar installed on the same machine in two different boot partitions. I have had some latency issues with Vista, but sometimes I want to work on a project while I have Vista up. Well, as soon as I activate on one OS or the other, as soon as I go back to the other OS, it says the plug has to be registered again and I'm down to my last one - so XP wins the registration war for now, since my audio stuff is more stable there at lower latency.
The OSs are installed on different hard drives, but they share a My Documents folder in which all of my VST plugs are located. When I have either installed from the "My Documents\NewVST" folder, it won't show up in Sonar. If I put it in a directory under that, it shows up and works fine, but each OS seems to want to take over the reg as well. I iniially thought that if I copied the dll in a different directory it would work okay, but my experimentations have left me with just the one activation.
What is the actual right way to go about this?
I have a question regarding activating both ST2 and SS2 in multiple boot partition OS's. I have XP with Sonar and Vista with Sonar installed on the same machine in two different boot partitions. I have had some latency issues with Vista, but sometimes I want to work on a project while I have Vista up. Well, as soon as I activate on one OS or the other, as soon as I go back to the other OS, it says the plug has to be registered again and I'm down to my last one - so XP wins the registration war for now, since my audio stuff is more stable there at lower latency.
The OSs are installed on different hard drives, but they share a My Documents folder in which all of my VST plugs are located. When I have either installed from the "My Documents\NewVST" folder, it won't show up in Sonar. If I put it in a directory under that, it shows up and works fine, but each OS seems to want to take over the reg as well. I iniially thought that if I copied the dll in a different directory it would work okay, but my experimentations have left me with just the one activation.
What is the actual right way to go about this?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
IK's activation is smart enough that if you haven't reinstalled the OS/etc on an already-authorized partition, it should generate the same "Digital ID" and re-use the auth it used before. This was true when I reinstalled/upgraded ST2, and the same Digital ID was generated to go with three different products.
So, you've used two auths, one for each OS, but it should re-use the ones you've already used. If I remember right, it keeps that info in SampleTank2.ini, so perhaps try save and swap? ie if you're using Vista right now, save SampleTank2.ini to SampleTank2.vista.ini, switch to XP, re-auth, copy the new SampleTank2.ini to SampleTank2.xp.ini, and make a batch file to copy whichever one you're using into SampleTank2.ini
(I would not use Vista for either music or mission-critical programs, but that's another discussion entirely).
Doug
So, you've used two auths, one for each OS, but it should re-use the ones you've already used. If I remember right, it keeps that info in SampleTank2.ini, so perhaps try save and swap? ie if you're using Vista right now, save SampleTank2.ini to SampleTank2.vista.ini, switch to XP, re-auth, copy the new SampleTank2.ini to SampleTank2.xp.ini, and make a batch file to copy whichever one you're using into SampleTank2.ini
(I would not use Vista for either music or mission-critical programs, but that's another discussion entirely).
Doug
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Thanks for your thoughts, Doug.
Anyway, I would like a rather definite "do this in this order" kind of thing to be sure I do it right and now have to go back for additional auth's. So far, the iterations I've tried result in the plug asking to be authorized on the other side (when that's already been done) seemingly BECAUSE of the other OS taking the authorization.
Anyone else have any commentary?
While I generally agree that there is some work yet to be done on the Vista side for it to be as good at low latency as XP, it's been a good performer for me otherwise - but the reason that I want to run my plugs over there to begin with is to see how Vista performs with the plugs. In general, it's actually been quite good under Sonar 6.2.1, though there are issues when going below about 5ms latency - but those aren't plugin issues, per se, they are audio issues that happen regardless of whether I'm using my IK stuff. I've since made some other updates and changes to the Vista side of my system and I'd like to see if there are other general improvements as I have gotten the pops and clicks to minimum at 5ms and up.I would not use Vista for either music or mission-critical programs, but that's another discussion entirely
Anyway, I would like a rather definite "do this in this order" kind of thing to be sure I do it right and now have to go back for additional auth's. So far, the iterations I've tried result in the plug asking to be authorized on the other side (when that's already been done) seemingly BECAUSE of the other OS taking the authorization.
Anyone else have any commentary?
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
One more thought - those .ini files are for the VSTI version. I'm not sure where it stores the auth for the DXI (Sonar) version, probably the registry.
Doug
Doug
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Good point about the differences. I'm using the VST version in Sonar - it's more stable than the DXi version, I found at the beginning - haven't really tried again since.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Hmmm. Anyone from esoundz or SR want to comment?
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
I thnk that you'll need to raise a Support ticket with IK. Please let us know what they say.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Yeah, I can do that. I really was hoping for a quicker answer here about the SS2 product and then apply that to both.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
Ok...so here's the answer I got back, which pretty much sucks for me:
Harumphh.
So, as I try to get Vista to the point of working, I'll have to take the time out eavery time I switch OS's to get new activation codes - because just having to activate wasn't enough of a hassle.2 Os's will make it have 2 different auth codes, etc. There is no way around
this.
We can unlock more codes down the road.
Harumphh.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 85 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
So - just in case anyone goes looking for this later: I was able to get it working in both partitions without needing reactivation by copying my entire VST folder and its subfolders to another parallel folder and pointed my Vista install to there for its plugins. Apparently whatever confusion was happening with having the two try to share some piece of the puzzle didn't work right.
Vista still won't run my project at the same latency, unfortunately. But now I have a sandbox when I need it.
Vista still won't run my project at the same latency, unfortunately. But now I have a sandbox when I need it.
