I really appreciate the help and I promise to take a closer look myself (not only helpful for others), though I know now why "my" amp was so weak and I got such huge noise.
My microphone is a electrolytic-condenser microphone, a middleway of dynamic and large-membran double-coil condenser microphones. It's not powered with 48V phantom power, and therefore the output is lower than with a phantom powered one, therefore I have to boost it stronger (much like a dynamic microphone).
This is the reason why I had to drive my Behringer to it's (almost) maximum to reach a certain level. Guess I just need to get a decent condenser microphone rather than this old dinosaur of mine.
Preamps and Mics - I guess I slept in that section
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- KVRAF
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- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
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joshhunsaker wrote:actually behringer uses the exact same components and spec circuit boards as all the other name brands that they copy (mackie, ART, yamaha etc.) and sometimes better. The yamaha mixer i have sucks compared to the behringer one that i used to have. The only section they skimp on are the pot and pans. Audio and s/n wise - there is no reason for behringer's products not to match right up to the ones from "big name" companies. Ask anyone who's checked the actual capacitors, inductors, circuits, etc. in both types of models and they will tell you the same thing. There is not that much wrong with behringer.where02190 wrote:Replace it with something that isn't Behringer. There's a reason their shit is so cheap, it's cheap shit.Compyfox wrote:how to properly set it up so that it doesn't hiss.
Behringer may be similar to some cheaper yamaha boards (REALLY cheap) but it DOES NOT SOUND THE SAME AND IT DOES NOT USE THE SAME PARTS AS A YAMAHA PREAMP lol. Let that be clear, no offense, but some of the higher end yamaha mic preamps sound excellent and way way way different from the behringer.
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Also, check the self-noise of your microphne before you buy it. This tells you a lot about how much noise it's gonna add in your signal.Compyfox wrote:I really appreciate the help and I promise to take a closer look myself (not only helpful for others), though I know now why "my" amp was so weak and I got such huge noise.
My microphone is a electrolytic-condenser microphone, a middleway of dynamic and large-membran double-coil condenser microphones. It's not powered with 48V phantom power, and therefore the output is lower than with a phantom powered one, therefore I have to boost it stronger (much like a dynamic microphone).
This is the reason why I had to drive my Behringer to it's (almost) maximum to reach a certain level. Guess I just need to get a decent condenser microphone rather than this old dinosaur of mine.
Preamps also have a self noise spec as well.
Converters have signal to noise ratio spec.
Cables also can add hum and buzz and noise.
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- KVRAF
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- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
I dunno about the SNR rates of my microphpne as it is a couple of years old already (and electrolytic-condensers are known to only last like 15-20 years before they're "dull") - so age can be a matter.
Of course I use XLR stuff with low noise (though golden cables are useless overkill IMO) and the Behringer is indeed low-noise if you know how to handle it.
If I have some money, maybe I'll get an AKG, or for experimenting some old Marshall or Samson condensers. Dunno yet - other stuff has higher priority at the moment, as I need to get some spare-money outside of engineering school.
Of course I use XLR stuff with low noise (though golden cables are useless overkill IMO) and the Behringer is indeed low-noise if you know how to handle it.
If I have some money, maybe I'll get an AKG, or for experimenting some old Marshall or Samson condensers. Dunno yet - other stuff has higher priority at the moment, as I need to get some spare-money outside of engineering school.
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
Samson C01 is really good for the price!!
my preamp stays on 0 (line level) & its loud as a motherf**ker!
of course a AKG will most likely sound better, but if your budgit is low then the C01 is perfect, (& robust! my mate has dropped his so many times it looks useless, & its a good few years older than mine,
but they still both sound the same
here's a cheesy track done using it!
http://skirize.bounceme.net/v2.mp3 (not me singing)(or playing guitar)
Subz
my preamp stays on 0 (line level) & its loud as a motherf**ker!
of course a AKG will most likely sound better, but if your budgit is low then the C01 is perfect, (& robust! my mate has dropped his so many times it looks useless, & its a good few years older than mine,
but they still both sound the same
here's a cheesy track done using it!
http://skirize.bounceme.net/v2.mp3 (not me singing)(or playing guitar)
Subz
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- KVRist
- 131 posts since 7 Jul, 2006
Go for MBHO Haun mics. Former DDR company, still rather cheap, lifelong guarantee and absolutely great quality.