layering synths and kicks...shelving or peaking?
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 24 Aug, 2006
I know the right answer is "Trust your ears!" but i'm an aspiring producer who's saving up for studio monitors. Right now I'm on broken computer speakers, and to add a cherry on top, they're the mosquito types that make it hard to hear the low mids.
What I want to know though is there a right answer? Will peaking make the whole mix muddy in some parts of the frequency spectrum? Will shelving make it feel like it's missing frequencies?
I've tried both on my bad speakers and they both seem fine to me.
What I want to know though is there a right answer? Will peaking make the whole mix muddy in some parts of the frequency spectrum? Will shelving make it feel like it's missing frequencies?
I've tried both on my bad speakers and they both seem fine to me.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 24 Aug, 2006
I'd also like to add filters to that list. Does filtering out cause the suspected projected effect that I think shelving does?
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 16 May, 2007 from A place where time does not exist...
not quite sure what you are talking about here... but if the question is should I boost with my eq? the answer is 90 to 100% of the time no... and fx if not done carefully have a tendency to make a mix muddy
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 24 Aug, 2006
Sorry if I was too vague...
My goal is I have let's say about 3 different synths. I want each of them to have their own range, so I'm going to cut each of them, one for the lows, the mids, and the highs. Which is the best way to cut? Filtering them all out using a filter/shelf eq or using a peak filter to cut just some of the frequencies.
My goal is I have let's say about 3 different synths. I want each of them to have their own range, so I'm going to cut each of them, one for the lows, the mids, and the highs. Which is the best way to cut? Filtering them all out using a filter/shelf eq or using a peak filter to cut just some of the frequencies.
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- KVRist
- 238 posts since 9 Jul, 2007 from Europe, Lithuania
hello,
everything depends on the sound, you must listen
and about monitors: you realy need them! or you can buy good headphones for lower price anyway you need to listen and decide what is sounds best.
sorry for no answer
good luck.
everything depends on the sound, you must listen
and about monitors: you realy need them! or you can buy good headphones for lower price anyway you need to listen and decide what is sounds best.
sorry for no answer
good luck.
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- KVRAF
- 1763 posts since 16 May, 2007 from A place where time does not exist...
if you are looking to cut the frequencies completely you need something with a 90 degree slope... have fun looking... when you find something with a 90 degree slope.. we can talk about this again. Meanwhile, go look for an eq with a 90 degree slopealphabet_510 wrote:Sorry if I was too vague...
My goal is I have let's say about 3 different synths. I want each of them to have their own range, so I'm going to cut each of them, one for the lows, the mids, and the highs. Which is the best way to cut? Filtering them all out using a filter/shelf eq or using a peak filter to cut just some of the frequencies.
I used to think the internet was going to unite mankind. Now I realize the internet is perhaps mankinds greatest wasteland of bickering, greed, and narrow minds. " And we all shine on, " Imagine that.
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 27 Nov, 2005 from "In the Zone"
You really don't need (or should even use) a vary high order filter in case, I think a 12-24db cutoff would be all you need.
Here is a good free one that can do this and more (even 90 degrees... almost
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Here is a good free one that can do this and more (even 90 degrees... almost
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- KVRAF
- 1666 posts since 28 Jun, 2007 from Amazon rain forest
I was just about to suggest Rubberfilter, like Phaseshift. For deep freq cuts, it'll do the job for sure.
But... I'd not recommend this huge cuts on your synths. Instead, it'd be better if you find the unecessary freqs in your synths, and cut it (gently, like 2 or 3db) with EQ.
Let's say you cut about 200hz in one synth, and leave the 200hz range of the other intact. So you could compensate the sound cuts of one sound with the other sound.
Am I making any sense?
But... I'd not recommend this huge cuts on your synths. Instead, it'd be better if you find the unecessary freqs in your synths, and cut it (gently, like 2 or 3db) with EQ.
Let's say you cut about 200hz in one synth, and leave the 200hz range of the other intact. So you could compensate the sound cuts of one sound with the other sound.
Am I making any sense?
