amplitube 2...........mac vs pc......

[hibidy]

sorry to start another!

However, since switching back to windows xp I decided to try AT2 again. On my macintel, I just hated it.....however, JHE has been my favorite plug since it was released.



It really doesn't make too much sense does it?

Ok, so loaded it into windows and OMFG! It's great! How can this be? I can't tell you how many times I tried it on mac and it was the most buzzy/clinky/nasty sound........again, how can that be?

Nope, it's not the settings........I run the same motu traveler and setup no matter what.

as a matter of fact, ampeg svx runs a little dull on the macintel......but not JHE.......that one sounds super-sweet no matter what............



Sorry, had to post this cause it's just too TOO weird to me!!!!!!!!

[stag]

Well, It migth the where you stand when you play the guitar... It migth be too much or too less input gain.
It's weir doe.

[headquest]

Given that you didn't know how much better JHE would sound on a Windows system than Mac until after you switched... why did you switch back to Windows (out of interest)...

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Is it possible you just didn't have the oversampling on when you tried it on the mac vs. having it on when you demoed it on PC? Are we talking the same interface?

I never got how everyone went ape-shit for AT2JHE yet swore AT2 wasn't quite as good. Different amps and different tones yes, but AT2 is absolutely on par AT2JHE. I'm convinced a lot of the AT2 hate is left over Amplitube 1 hate, or just something else that's entirely in people's heads.

So bsaically, yes! AT2 is on par with AT2JHE soundwise. Second, it always has been, and third, neither one should sound different on a Mac than on a PC.

[hibidy]

@headquest

the imac simply does not perform well. The cpu is a dog.......my much older amd 4000+ out performs the coreduo 2ghz dramatically.

The JHE is about the same in quality........I have no idea why.


@fbet

That's the thing that is so bizarre, I always turn off all the oversampling and such to make sure the cpu isn't being over used.

Again, I have no explanation.......and I'm really not saying "this is better, that is worse" necessarily, but I have heard differences (same soundcard/samplerate/etc.)

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Again, I have no explanation.......and I'm really not saying "this is better, that is worse" necessarily, but I have heard differences (same soundcard/samplerate/etc.)

A simple phase reversal test would clear this up. What I would do is this: take a clean guitar part and process it through AT2 (only amp and cab sims, no effects) on your mac. Next, throw copies of both the unprocessed and processed takes and on a CD, HD, something like sendspace, etc., along with a copy of the AT2 preset. Now, load that same unprocessed take on your PC with the same AT2 preset and render. Take both rendered files and do a phase inversion test. I'd imagine they should null out. If not, there's either a difference or you did something wrong.

[rainydays]

the imac simply does not perform well. The cpu is a dog.......my much older amd 4000+ out performs the coreduo 2ghz dramatically.

Then there must have been something wrong with your machine. Seriously.

I was curious about it so I fired up Amplitube 2 on both OS X and Windows and they perform and sound the same on both systems for me.

[hibidy]

the imac simply does not perform well. The cpu is a dog.......my much older amd 4000+ out performs the coreduo 2ghz dramatically.

Then there must have been something wrong with your machine. Seriously.

I was curious about it so I fired up Amplitube 2 on both OS X and Windows and they perform and sound the same on both systems for me.

a. are you intelmac?

b. actually, unless everything is optimized for dual core (which no plug ins are and most hosts are pseudo optimized) why wouldn't the performance be worse (imac that is)?

2.0ghz 32bit vs 2.4ghz 64bit processing ......that dual core isn't being used properly.

[rainydays]

I never got how everyone went ape-shit for AT2JHE yet swore AT2 wasn't quite as good. Different amps and different tones yes, but AT2 is absolutely on par AT2JHE. I'm convinced a lot of the AT2 hate is left over Amplitube 1 hate, or just something else that's entirely in people's heads.

I have to admit that I had a lot of Amplitube 1 "hate" when I first tried and AT2, and that made me turn away from it almost instantly. But I tried it again a few months later an realized how much better it really is. It's still nowhere near as good as the Vox Tonelab, but having a plugin can be handy and I actually prefer it over GuitarRig.

I think the reason why AT2JHE is more popular than AT2 is that people think "OHMAGADZZZ!! I SOUNDS JUST LIKE JIMMI HENDRIX!! I'M A GUITAR GOD!"

[rainydays]

a. are you intelmac?

b. actually, unless everything is optimized for dual core (which no plug ins are and most hosts are pseudo optimized) why wouldn't the performance be worse (imac that is)?

a. Yes. I'm at a 2.0GHz C2D MacBook at the moment. I can try it on my 2.4GHz iMac when I get home as well if it does anything for you.


b. Because the plug isn't even using up one core. If I would use 4 of them in an SMP enabled host then I would most likely see better performance on the dual core. But for one single plug it doesn't matter if I have one or eight cores.

[Hink]

I never got how everyone went ape-shit for AT2JHE yet swore AT2 wasn't quite as good. Different amps and different tones yes, but AT2 is absolutely on par AT2JHE. I'm convinced a lot of the AT2 hate is left over Amplitube 1 hate, or just something else that's entirely in people's heads.

I think the reason why AT2JHE is more popular than AT2 is that people think "OHMAGADZZZ!! I SOUNDS JUST LIKE JIMMI HENDRIX!! I'M A GUITAR GOD!"

not me, I'm not exactly what you would call a fan of the Hendrix sound, in fact stipulating to the fact that he was a great innovator I consider achieving his tone to be taking a few steps back

[hibidy]

I never got how everyone went ape-shit for AT2JHE yet swore AT2 wasn't quite as good. Different amps and different tones yes, but AT2 is absolutely on par AT2JHE. I'm convinced a lot of the AT2 hate is left over Amplitube 1 hate, or just something else that's entirely in people's heads.

I think the reason why AT2JHE is more popular than AT2 is that people think "OHMAGADZZZ!! I SOUNDS JUST LIKE JIMMI HENDRIX!! I'M A GUITAR GOD!"

not me, I'm not exactly what you would call a fan of the Hendrix sound, in fact stipulating to the fact that he was a great innovator I consider achieving his tone to be taking a few steps back

another "multitasking" thread of topics......

JHE has absolutely wonderful clean tones. Not to say the others don't, but there is something to be said for JHE though. Also, I think the uni-vibe is worth the price of admission!

[hibidy]

as far as the imac is concerned.........I have the coreduo, not the core2duo and I don't think I'm alone in the disappointment department. I'll take it in again and try to get them to do something about (it's under a replace if can't fix warranty) but it just get's old screwing around.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Also, I think the uni-vibe is worth the price of admission!

That Uni-vibe was a damn nice effect. If I ever needed the perfect Uni-vibe I think I'd have to just give in and buy JHE.

[hibidy]

I've just been putting down some ideas with both versions (just using the demo of at2 till my "crossgrade" arrives) they are very different. I've probably got Eric Johnson as my all/time #1 "vibe" guitarist and I can get allot of those tones from jhe. No, I can't play that fast, but I have good technique for the most part.

It's sad, especially now that I have svx, JHE, and at2 that they are not interchangeable............but I can live. I can't remember which mag said "get an echo" (um hello.......where is that echo-plex)? but that is the only thing missing imho.