super riff guitar

[lotus2035]

The pitch bend is implemented, but appears to be set at 1.5 semitones or 3 steps. Would be great to have a variable bend range, but if it had to be a preset range that range should be 2 steps or 1 semitone, for my playing. but variable would be best because sometimes you want to go dive-bombing!

SciFiArtMan

..I delibrately kept the pitch bend range low so as to keep the range more within finger bending limits...of course a whammy bar would explain wild pitch bends in either direction too..

do you think 2 steps would be more suitable for many keyboard players?

I had thought of adding a choice for pitch bend range but kept it out because i didnt want to clutter the GUI and i was running out of time!...Ill keep it in mind for a future version though...

[SciFiArtMan]

I think there is room for ONE more mod wheel level, at the very top. The way it is now, the long notes could come in with a lot less mod wheel advance - just a slight push up should trigger them. The vibrato kicks at exactly mid-point of my mod wheel (M-Audio Radium 49) which is perfect. Then there's plenty of room for one more level at the very top of the throw (I'd like the root/5th power chords there!). Then give some lower notes (to at least C1), and at least a 2 stage selection on pitch bend range (2 and 3 steps) and it would all be so sweet!

SciFiArtMan

[SciFiArtMan]

I delibrately kept the pitch bend range low so as to keep the range more within finger bending limits...of course a whammy bar would explain wild pitch bends in either direction too..

do you think 2 steps would be more suitable for many keyboard players?

I had thought of adding a choice for pitch bend range but kept it out because i didnt want to clutter the GUI and i was running out of time!...Ill keep it in mind for a future version though...

Yes, the whammy bar is a good idea for future versions, but I hope you'll consider a change for this version on the pitch bend range. I use a lot of pitch bending and mod wheeling in my solos (listen to my song "River of Fire" and you'll hear enough PB and MW to satisfy you for a week! (see link in sig) and for me 2 steps is what I use almost exclusively. Sure there are times when more or less PB is needed, but I'd think for most players 2 steps covers about 95% of their use. So if not a switch, then a flat setting of 2 steps would be best.

I don't how much, if any, mods like this are allowed on these Dev Challenge plugs, so I'm just thinking outloud.

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

I there is room for ONE more mod wheel level, at the very top. The way it is now, the long notes could come in with a lot less mod wheel advance - just a slight push up should trigger them. The vibrato kicks at exactly mid-point of my mod wheel (M-Audio Radium 49) which is perfect. Then there's plenty of room for one more level at the very top of the throw (I'd like the root/5th power chords there!). Then give some lower notes (to at least C1), and at least a 2 stage selection on pitch bend range (2 and 3 steps) and it would all be so sweet!

SciFiArtMan

..thats exactly what I had in mind!
...power chords at the top!...
I wont be recording any new samples until I get some new pick-ups however...but then I will update the existing soundbank and add maybe 2 new ones with different tones (for now at least).. and release it as version 1.5 or something.. I have the Bass version to do first though..

[lotus2035]

I delibrately kept the pitch bend range low so as to keep the range more within finger bending limits...of course a whammy bar would explain wild pitch bends in either direction too..

do you think 2 steps would be more suitable for many keyboard players?

I had thought of adding a choice for pitch bend range but kept it out because i didnt want to clutter the GUI and i was running out of time!...Ill keep it in mind for a future version though...

Yes, the whammy bar is a good idea for future versions, but I hope you'll consider a change for this version on the pitch bend range. I use a lot of pitch bending and mod wheeling in my solos (listen to my song "River of Fire" and you'll hear enough PB and MW to satisfy you for a week! (see link in sig) and for me 2 steps is what I use almost exclusively. Sure there are times when more or less PB is needed, but I'd think for most players 2 steps covers about 95% of their use. So if not a switch, then a flat setting of 2 steps would be best.

I don't how much, if any, mods like this are allowed on these Dev Challenge plugs, so I'm just thinking outloud.

SciFiArtMan

I will change it to 2 then..
but yes, I think it is better to wait until the 24th of october seeing as this is not a bug!

[SciFiArtMan]

I like to report a bug! The pitch bend range is irradically playing 3 steps, instead of the intended 2! Hope this can be fixed soon.

Understood!

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

I like to report a bug! The pitch bend range is irradically playing 3 steps, instead of the intended 2! Hope this can be fixed soon.

Understood!

SciFiArtMan

I almost believed you there for a second..

[SciFiArtMan]

OK, I do have an actual bug. Geez I hope it's not going to be a painful one. The tuning is about 20 cents sharp (from A=440).

And while you're in there...

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

OK, I do have an actual bug. Geez I hope it's not going to be a painful one. The tuning is about 25 cents sharp (from A=440).

And while you're in there...

SciFiArtMan

...you mean for the whole range?....or just some keys? I tuned every note as best I could, but to be honest it was one of the most difficult parts of putting the whole plug together...man, maybe I should just get a new guitar..
..but I suppose a little bit of transposing would take care of it for the most part...
..but let me know if you mean all the keys or not... maybe I can adjust all the samples in one go...
cheers...

[SciFiArtMan]

Yes, all the keys are a bit sharp. You can measure this with G-Tune or CTuner (both free). Noticed it first in mute mode, but then confirmed in full mode. I synched some keys with SRG and found about +20cents sounded best, but the tuners said the sharpness was around 12-23 cents (fluctuating during the notes). Maybe a global transpose will do the trick!

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

..If I rounded it off to maybe -15 cents that should do the trick...thanks for the heads up..
I used the built in tuner on my Line6 toneport to tune-up but I suppose I should have got a "2nd opinion".....

[SciFiArtMan]

Yes, upon further testing I found -15 cents flatter to be the sweet spot also!

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

Yes, upon further testing I found -15 cents flatter to be the sweet spot also!

SciFiArtMan

.."Great minds think alike" or "Fools seldom differ"...take your pick..

Ive been listening to some of your tracks..great stuff man, very professional musicianship, way beyond any crap I can pull off..

..river of fire was great, guitar solo sounds real, I love the pad break until the finish too..
...real nice acoustic guitar on hands of the ocean...nice work..

[SciFiArtMan]

Hey thanks Lotus2035, I really appreciate that! And soon there'll be some new songs with this killer cool guitar sound throughout! Thanks for making THAT possible!!!

SciFiArtMan

[lotus2035]

Hey thanks Lotus2035, I really appreciate that! And soon there'll be some new songs with this killer cool guitar sound throughout! Thanks for making THAT possible!!!

SciFiArtMan

..will be very interesting to hear!..especially from an accomplished keyboard player like yourself..

..by the way, did you notice the "Spinal Tap" nod on the GUI?