I do agree with you to a point, I mean yeah the presets should more or less show off the synth in the extremities, but also if they are too good, the user may be turned off cause they think they couldn't do better, or like you said if they suck then they may think the synth is not very usefull. But still, and I know this will sound horribly biased and somewhat a contradictory idea, but I think if people can't bring out the best in synths, they aren't very good with them. At the same time though I recognize that even the best sometimes can't bring life out of a synth, and most of the times that's when the synth actually does suck, or by its very nature is limited in what it can do.liars&ashes wrote:----This is not about ANY particular synth or effect, but, if the "factory" or built-in presets aren't any good, why should the user think they can do better ? And if there aren't very many, that might as well indicate that the range is very slim. Are these fair assumptions ? Maybe not, but from what I can see/hear, and from how I feel, they are the reality of the situation. "If the creator of the dang thing couldn't make it sound good and show off it's range, then how am I supposed to?!", is kind of how I look at it. However, that said, a dozen great presets are better than 50 mediocre repetitive ones any day, so quality always counts, even in small amounts.Chris Roberson wrote:I can't seem to understand why the presets will outright kill a synth in some people's eyes. I can understand how it'd be a rocky start coming to grips with it, but seriously how will you truly know if it's good for you anyways if you don't get in there and makes your own presets and patches for your own music?
I might even go so far as to say that if you don't make your own presets with it you don't really have business talking about the specific qualities of the synth, except of course for stupidly obvious things like waveform aliasing or non-working controls or if the thing doesn't even work at all and such.
Jeff
Iunno, there's way too much to get in to and way too many technicalities, especially when we're talking about a time frame of a month in this competition to have to really come to grips with stuff, so I think at this point I'm just gonna leave it with those thoughts and call it a day.
Overall, while I do value presets, I also think end users (myself included sometimes, to be honest) should keep an open mind approaching synths instead of a closed one if they think that presets = definate end quality.
Cheers folks.
