AmpliTube Metal - Released THIS month!!!

[Lunch Money]

Bitching about prices is silly IMO.
I buy or don't, that's it. In this case i'm going to buy other thing.
IK guys just lose their minds. At least could have put it normal line in commutable to D\I.
The more i look at it the more i lust for the VG-99.

Dude, you just did the exact thing that the rest of us did! Mentioned the fact that it's overpriced along with reasonable and more attractive options. I don't see how everybody else is "bitching about the prices" in a "silly" way any differently that what you did in the above quote!

That's really all there is to it... the IK guys just lose their minds. So, your statement was 100% correct.

[hibidy]

Bitching about prices is silly IMO.
I buy or don't, that's it. In this case i'm going to buy other thing.
IK guys just lose their minds. At least could have put it normal line in commutable to D\I.
The more i look at it the more i lust for the VG-99.

Dude, you just did the exact thing that the rest of us did! Mentioned the fact that it's overpriced along with reasonable and more attractive options. I don't see how everybody else is "bitching about the prices" in a "silly" way any differently that what you did in the above quote!

That's really all there is to it... the IK guys just lose their minds. So, your statement was 100% correct.

+1

[Compyfox]

Fun thing is... we're all talking about this plugin, and there're still people who'll buy it. So did we change anything? I'd say "no". It's the other way around, we even made it popular by saying "it sucks", but then people come along and say "I have to get it to see if it really sucks".

Best advertising ever possible.

[Dewdman42]

Its a superior sounding product. At the current price point I think they are overestimating the market. I bet the price on these will come down eventually. There are very few guitarists that can afford a multi-thousand dollar guitar rig for live playing. maybe some of them will venture into the land of amplitube, but I suspect the vast majority will continue to use their botique tubed amp setups.

Amplitube is most useful to people as a DAW recording plugin that can be used when its more convenient than setting up their fancy tube amp setups with mics, etc. I'd say most of these people are willing to spend up to $500 MAX for this software capability...and that includes all expansions, etc.. Beyond that, there are other software products on the list and only so much budget. These same people need drums, bass, B4, etc.. oh, reverb, the cost of the DAW itself, etc.. Always more stuff to buy and only so much money to spend. Why would they spend it all on guitar software? They wouldn't. And I contend that the vast majority of them would not be into playing through a laptop on stage either. They want that grill faced cab with glowing tubes. I know I do, and the audience wants to see that stuff too.

If they had priced a live amplitube setup more into the common man's budget, perhaps more people would get it to try out or to add to their arsenal, etc...but its current price point means that anyone seriously thinking about using it has to sell the stuff they got and "go-laptop", which I just frankly don't think most guitarists are ready to do at this point in history.

[redshift factor]

Since we know that IK Multimedia already modeled the MXR Phase 90 from early beta screenshots of AT2, they really should finally put it to use and include it in Amplitube Metal. A lot of people are going to use ATM as their only rig, and it ought to include a phaser. Particularly since the Phase 90 is such an integral part of Eddie Van Halen's sound that they gave him his own model. It would be a real shame and a missed opportunity for IKMM if the Phase 90 is overlooked.





Also I hope that X-GEAR has drag and drop on the pedal order like Waves Stomp, NI Guitar Rig, and Alien Connections ReValver MKII. Even Cubase 4 supports this on its inserts, finally. Why not Amplitube?

[stag]

Its a superior sounding product. At the current price point I think they are overestimating the market. I bet the price on these will come down eventually. There are very few guitarists that can afford a multi-thousand dollar guitar rig for live playing. maybe some of them will venture into the land of amplitube, but I suspect the vast majority will continue to use their botique tubed amp setups.

Amplitube is most useful to people as a DAW recording plugin that can be used when its more convenient than setting up their fancy tube amp setups with mics, etc. I'd say most of these people are willing to spend up to $500 MAX for this software capability...and that includes all expansions, etc.. Beyond that, there are other software products on the list and only so much budget. These same people need drums, bass, B4, etc.. oh, reverb, the cost of the DAW itself, etc.. Always more stuff to buy and only so much money to spend. Why would they spend it all on guitar software? They wouldn't. And I contend that the vast majority of them would not be into playing through a laptop on stage either. They want that grill faced cab with glowing tubes. I know I do, and the audience wants to see that stuff too.

If they had priced a live amplitube setup more into the common man's budget, perhaps more people would get it to try out or to add to their arsenal, etc...but its current price point means that anyone seriously thinking about using it has to sell the stuff they got and "go-laptop", which I just frankly don't think most guitarists are ready to do at this point in history.

If they had priced a live amplitube setup more into the common man's budget That's an angle. However i don't mind spending twice what they ask for it but not on such product.

Look at GR3: do you think that stomp I\O is worth the double of it? i think not. GR3 has a sturdy, good sounding controller with GR3 software on the side. On top is the third version, the controller has now a lot of enhancements that just make sense, like Line\DI stereo ins.

On the other hand the mega beast VG-99. It's an audio interface, it's a MIDI controller, Pitch to MIDI converter and signal processor. Signal processing has 3 completely separated or cascaded ways. It allows monitoring with FX, record clean and re-amping... 24 bit A\D.
BTW its price is among the lines of stomp I\O.

It isn't about the money. It's about making sense in my case.

I've been wating 2\3 years for stomp i\o just to say: thanks but no, thanks.

Bye.

[redshift factor]

Ah, the official pastime of K-V-R: bitching about the price tag and how the product of discussion sucks compared to everything else.

[Squids]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.ikmultimedia.com/NewsDisplay.php?Id=956

A new software shell-host that allows you to open ANY current and future "Powered by AmpliTube" amp and FX system in a single interface (AmpliTube 2, AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™, Ampeg SVX, AmpliTube 2 Live and the new AmpliTube Metal) with full mix and match between all of included models, and live control with the StompIO or MIDI controllers.


Hallelua!!!!


Edit: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....They are charging money for the software!!! I thought it was for free, hence my joy. I am still happy, but 99.99$ less

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I haven't read through this whole thread yet (just got on line since AES started) but I have some good news for AmpliTube 2 users. AS PROMISED FROM THE BEGINNING when IK said you would be able to run the gear of AH Jimi Hendrix inside AmpliTube 2 for FREE this IS going to be the case... in fact, even better because you can also run Ampeg and Metal. IF you own AmpliTube 2 -AND- either of those others. Why? Because AmpliTube 2 users will be able to get X-Gear for a limited time for FREE! I think someone made a mistake and didn't announce that little detail but I double checked because I thought it was the case (and knew it had to be since I am on the forums and have participated in A3ntar's mega threads before ).

So, a couple of things... one, X-Gear is going to be free for a limited time to AmpliTube 2 users which allows you to open up other powered by AT products -AND- use some midi control too. Nice.

The other thing that you may or may not realize about the Stomp IO (which also comes with X-Gear for free) is that it has a special version of AmpliTube 2 that comes with it. But, if you are an AmpliTube 2 user already you get AmpliTube Metal for free (a $249 product which is the same as the AmpliTube 2 crossgrade... which you could have/should have gotten if you owned ANY IK product before... a smart way to buy - especially from www.esoundz.com - this post sponsored by... jk).

Hopefully that makes you happy. Now, I have confirmed this info directly with the powers that be. It will be officially announced soon.

[Squids]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A new software shell-host that allows you to open ANY current and future "Powered by AmpliTube" amp and FX system in a single interface (AmpliTube 2, AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™, Ampeg SVX, AmpliTube 2 Live and the new AmpliTube Metal) with full mix and match between all of included models, and live control with the StompIO or MIDI controllers.

That's really weak that they're charging for this functionality. I could always just hypothetically chain them together, so I don't see the need or desire to charge me for the convenience. But whatever. I might buy future products, but I'm not going to pay IK for a plug-in to chain their own plug-ins.

Otherwise, it would have been really cool.

Yes, but I've met your twin and I think when he hears that it is in fact free he would change his mind.

[Squids]

yeah midi control is overdue and I think they should give it to you free if you have two or more of the software that it works with.
rsp

How many times do I have to tell you guys, if you own AT2 it's going to be FREE!

jk (I am just messing with the peeps I know on here, I'm done)

[Squids]

The biggest Ripoff that IKM pulled so far was the Amplitube2Duo. That shit costs 199USD(!) and you only get 2 Amps, 2 Cabinets, 2 mics, 1 Stompbox and Wah Pedal and nothing else.

SERIOUSLY WTF?! For this money I can get Revalver 2 mkII or a full blown GearBox set! If I'd thrown that much money out for 2Duo rather then getting it bundled with RealStrat from Musiclab, I'd be seriously more pissed that I am now.

And seriously... what's not "metal" on the old Amplitube? Do we really need another revision? No joke, but I'd rather put my money into something that has more to offer and costs way less, bust sounds as good (or even superior)

AmpliTube Duo is only an OEM product. That means it only comes bundled with other products. So I don't know where you got that info from. AmpliTube 2 LIVE comes with the Stealthplug which has much more in the box than what you are describing and it is half the price... and comes with a unique guitar audio interface cable... and a $150 Sequencer program (Tracktion 2.1). All of this for a street price of $99. So... rip off? I don't think!

As to why someone would buy Metal, I can answer that easily. For the GEAR that was modeled for it. Different gear that's modeled. Straight up. Models of ProCo Rat Pedals, the 5150 head, the Boss pedals, Triple Rectifier, Dimebag Warhead thing, JMT Marshall, MXR Flanger (Eddie style- Unchained ), Big Muff and other cool stuff. I don't even play metal but I can't wait to add some more gear with X-Gear and I am SURE that other guitarists will too.

I talk to tons of guitarists from some of your favorite bands all of the time. They request gear they want modeled at trade shows (like AES and NAMM) and eventually it gets done. A lot of work to do that. First you have to BUY the actual gear, the model it and compare it until it sounds like it. Science and art. It works. It's unstoppable and it is successful. So, it comes down to each person whether they want it or not for what it IS (but definitely not good to go by false information).

So, with the facts straight, people can make up their mind from there. You want the gear? The different character of these amps and effects modeled from the hardware world?

[hibidy]

yeah midi control is overdue and I think they should give it to you free if you have two or more of the software that it works with.
rsp

How many times do I have to tell you guys, if you own AT2 it's going to be FREE!

jk (I am just messing with the peeps I know on here, I'm done)

Hell, I was willing to pay for it......but since I recently got at2 (thanks to ezsounds) looks like I might not have to pay? coooool

[RaChVer2]

Triple Rectifier

WHERE is there in Amplitube Metal any rectifiers???

[Squids]

$1049 for the StompIO? Unreal.

Does anyone say that the Digi 003's price is unreal? It's the equivalent level product in a foot controller. All you have to do to understand its value is look and see if there is any other controller for guitar amp and effect software that can control every performance parameter and editing parameter to the point where you don't even need a monitor for your computer when you use it (stuff a mini mac in a bag and hook it up to that!). Also, a controller that has 6 expression pedals, a console grade discrete analog input and all of the other high end features of this product.

The only thing I will say is that Stomp IO starts at the TOP, the high end features and I am sure there are people who would sacrifice some control and features for a lower price. There are other things you could get (especially now with X-Gear) to have basic midi control and audio I/O. But IK was more interested in creating something incredibly powerful and proprietary (instead of just bundling a basic midi pedal with an audio interface which would have been incredibly easy to do). So, it's innovative and unique... groundbreaking even! It really is the most powerful guitar effects system ever made. So, relatively speaking it is a "get what you pay for" kind of situation. It's solid metal hand made in Italy quality product designed to work seamlessly with the software.

[Squids]

Triple Rectifier

WHERE is there in Amplitube Metal any rectifiers???

Allow me to rectify the situation. I mean the model of the Mesa Boogie.