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Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:22 pm

Also, as a general rule you can't expect to load up a single instance of anything and get an amazing guitar sound. For instance, with amplitube 2 you get a mono output, so to get that phat double tracked effect, you're gonna need two instances... and this will rapidly change your tone. You may find that you have too much gain once you double track a riff - for instance.

Cap'n Spanky · Post by **Cap'n Spanky** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:45 pm

I love modeler discussions.

Back on topic…

Let me say again that I have great respect for Andrew's opinion and his decision to purchase the Axe-Fx. I have no doubt that it will be great. But I personally have a couple of issues with spending anywhere from $1,350 to $2,000 for this modeler.

1) My understanding is this is basically a one man shop.

- He designs and builds the hardware (which is admittedly top notch)
- He designs and codes the amp sims
- He designs and codes the effects
- He runs the business and has all the headaches associated with that

That's very ambitious and A LOT of hats for someone to wear. Something most likely will suffer. Say what you want about Line 6, but I'm sure they have teams of sound designers, hardware, software, and business and marketing folks. They have the resources to develop something as involved as 'do-it-all-in-one-box' modeler.

2) My other issue is that I have a little trouble investing in expensive and proprietary digital hardware that may be only worth 60% or 1/2 it's value in 5 years.

I would over look all the stuff above and buy it if I heard some clips that blew my mind, but that has not happened yet. YMMV.

pough · Post by **pough** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:17 pm

joeykusack wrote:they don't even sound that good!

Debates? Maybe they're not using Dubly.

BTW, Cap'n Spanky, your words are clipping on my monitor. Can we get some kind of text limiter or something?

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:39 pm

Cap'n Spanky wrote:I love modeler discussions. Back on topic…

WHAT???

MrTom · Post by **MrTom** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:48 pm

AndrewSimon wrote:Fellow guitar players, I just wanted to let you know
that my search for Amp Sims is over.
I found the holly grail, the one the makes all my dreams a reality and more!

I'm 100% satisfied, I don't even look at any other gear/software anymore... there is no point, the game is over.

I wanted to share this with all you players.
I will not debate anything with anybody, I just want you all to know that the magic box is out there.

It's called AXE-FX:
http://www.fractalaudio.com/

A better place to dive into this and hear user demos is:
http://www.setbb.com/axefx/

Here are a few samples I recorded, just for fun, they do not represent anything, just my "playing around" with this box:

I tried to simulate "double tracking"
http://www.andras-shimon.com/AXE-FX/DoubleT2.mp3

An attempt at warm "Carlton" style tone:
http://www.andras-shimon.com/AXE-FX/WarmLead2.mp3

Just 1 guitar played live + some FX magic:
http://www.andras-shimon.com/AXE-FX/AXEmagic.mp3

Some clean tones:
http://www.andras-shimon.com/TEMP/FXtest.mp3

Based on 8" Tweed + a Strat, boosted into something more:
http://www.andras-shimon.com/AXE-FX/OldRR.mp3

1700 bucks ...i mean.. why not

...

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:10 pm

Yeah, cool.

This thingy sounds nearly as good as Revalver on clean sounds. The disto sounds are below Revalver. 1700 dollars? No brainer.

Shogger

jinxtigr · Post by **jinxtigr** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:02 am

You could always buy 28 copies of 'LilAmp' for that, and pretend they are 28 different sounds

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 am

jinxtigr wrote:You could always buy 28 copies of 'LilAmp' for that, and pretend they are 28 different sounds

Yes sir,

but I don't own a mac.

Shogger

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:14 am

Hink wrote:
hibidy wrote:
joeykusack wrote:
Hink wrote:the thing about the internet it's easy for people to read the same thing differently. I didn't read it as coming off strongly, I guess I just didn't take it that seriously...I was more thankful for the heads up....I think pough's response was evident of the sarcastic nature of his firm stance...
sure, but still it was a arrogant thing to say you are not even going to debate it with someone
Don't even try, he's a douche........he just reads what he wants to read and it makes him think he's smart
dude grow up...I never called you names, I just pointed out your words were unkind....apparently you ageed because you apologized. So now you attack me

Let me make one thing clear...you cannot insult me

are we still at this? Is it a last word thing or something?

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:57 am

You can have Roland VG-99 for less or GT-Pro for just of fraction. But a new entry is always welcome - AXE-FX reminds me somewhat of Chameleon. Unfortunately it just sold out all units and then company closed...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:46 pm

hibidy wrote:
Hink wrote:
hibidy wrote:
joeykusack wrote:
Hink wrote:the thing about the internet it's easy for people to read the same thing differently. I didn't read it as coming off strongly, I guess I just didn't take it that seriously...I was more thankful for the heads up....I think pough's response was evident of the sarcastic nature of his firm stance...
sure, but still it was a arrogant thing to say you are not even going to debate it with someone
Don't even try, he's a douche........he just reads what he wants to read and it makes him think he's smart
dude grow up...I never called you names, I just pointed out your words were unkind....apparently you ageed because you apologized. So now you attack me

Let me make one thing clear...you cannot insult me
are we still at this? Is it a last word thing or something?

yup...when someone calls me a douche I have the right to respond...again I have yet to call you any names

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:59 pm

Oh nooooo !

Another "Guitar Players" thread ! LOL

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:09 pm

Mutant wrote:Oh nooooo !

Another "Guitar Players" thread ! LOL

Yes!

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:34 pm

AXE-FX clip from riffy:

http://members.cox.net/rockguitar/AC01.MP3

I have 1 track of 1961 AC15 twin here... That is 2-10 inch blues
in it. I have one track of Axe-FX. For speakers on the Axe-FX, I
used 1 blue and 1 gold 10 speakers in the sim.

What side is the real amp? ... can you tell?

Guitar players! The search for Amp Sims is over AXE-FX