KVR Audio

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:40 pm

Just a quick couple questions about Sonar coming from a Cubase user, I'm borrowing a friends laptop and he has Sonar 7 on it that he just upgraded to. I'm trying to find out if it's possible to chop up audio clips into little pieces all at once. Like in Cubase how you alt-left click with the scissors tool and it chops the rest of the clip up in the same size increments.

Also wanted to know if it's possible to raise the volume of just one audio clip, or a part of an audio clip without raising the mixer volume?

I'm liking it so far but these are 2 things I can't seem to find in the manual or figure out. Any help would be appreciated.

kp · Post by kp » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:50 pm

There's a split command that might do what you want - I don't know for certain (right click, split? something like that anyway).

Use a clip gain envelope for your second problem.

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:20 pm

The clip gain envelope turns the mixer fader up, I just want to increase the level of the clip, not the mixer fader.

Also I see the split command but I don't see a way to cut it up into 1/16th pieces or anything like that....Thanx for trying though kp, anybody else know if this is possible?

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:29 pm

Is it a drum loop you want to split up? If so, you can use AudioSnap to do that. Right-Click on the Audio Clip and select AudioSnap->AudioSnap Enable (or just press F12). It will attempt to divide your clip into different zones automatically, but you can adjust things as much as you like. On the AudioSnap dialogue there'll be a little icon with a pair of Scissors. This will chop up the clip into seperate audio clips.

As for the volume of a clip, hmn, not sure, hopefully someone else might chime in. You can do per-clip FX, so perhaps you could drag something simple like "GVST GGain" onto it. A bit of a workaround though.

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:36 pm

It's not a drum loop, though the AudioSnap feature is really cool! I want to chop up a piece of audio into a bunch of 1/32nd pieces, so I can mute or process each piece seperately. I'm sure I can zoom in and chop the whole thing manually, but I'm looking for a faster way. Maybe this is just a Cubase thing?

Thanx for the ideas fandango

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:38 pm

The reason I like to move the volume up on just a clip is so I can keep my mixer all level and adjust the volumes as close as possible for the mix down. Then use the mixer for mixing things such as fade ins and outs or slight level automation etc...It's more of the mixing stage..

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:17 pm

To increase a single clip you just right-click the clip and select "envelopes -> CLIP envelopes"

Selecting TRACK envelopes will move the fader, but clip envelopes will leave the overall level the way you want it.

Also, gain is not the same as volume. You can move a clip gain and leave the overall level / volume independant.

syrath · Post by **syrath** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:21 pm

You can still do this from within Sonar. Set your snap to grid to 32nd notes. On the time ruler you will see on the right hand side at the top a small square with a cross in it. Click on this, you will then get a black marker at every 32nd note

Right click the clip and select to split the clip at audiosnap pool. Make sure you have audiosnap off for the clip you are doing this too (if you do you will have extra audiosnap markers that it will split at as well).

That should cover it.

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:23 pm

Here is another way to do what you want.

Create track envelopes to automate the track volume for each track. Then hit "O", which will put you in offset mode. Now you will see all faders are back to 0. Do not panic. You can move the offset faders independant from level faders. The offset faders are set overall for the whole track and can not be changed or automated, while the level envelopes can be changed at any point in the song.

kp · Post by kp » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:25 pm

Sepheritoh wrote:To increase a single clip you just right-click the clip and select "envelopes -> CLIP envelopes"

That's what I said :-)

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:26 pm

Perfect

Thats exactly what I needed

Cheers,
~airyck~

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:27 pm

Your question 1 has a sollution too. Just right-click the clip and select split from the menu. There is an option to repeat at same intervals the way you want it.

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:27 pm

kp wrote:
Sepheritoh wrote:To increase a single clip you just right-click the clip and select "envelopes -> CLIP envelopes"
That's what I said

Sorry I must have misread your post

I thought there was only track envelopes listed there. Thanx kp

psylevation · Post by **psylevation** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:29 pm

there seems to be a lot of hidden features in Sonar...I'm going to dig for a while, I'm starting to like it alot

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:30 pm

OK I think you have now enough people who keep on helping. We are all actually saying the same tings in different ways. Sorry to confuse you, but Sonar users are just so helpfull.

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