DiscoDSP on mac?
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- KVRAF
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Is this ever going to happen? I don't think their stuff is SE, so it should be possible... Also the dev said something in the discovery pro thread of a mac version being a possibility, but I'd prefer if the cheaper plugs were available for mac too...
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Hello,
I will do a quick copy/paste from our support forum:
We have successfully managed to run Discovery Pro + ipMIDI + Fusion with Logic Pro.
Check out the following video. Audio crackles are due high CPU usage (recording real time H.264 video using iShowU and 256 samples latency in both Logic Pro and Jeskola Buzz using ASIO4ALL and Polac ASIO drivers) on a MacBook Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz. Audio still bounces perfectly.
http://www.discodsp.com/mp4/discovery_pro_logic.mov (Requires QT7).
The setup process is very easy. ipMIDI is great but still lacks the audio bridging part. However you can now run Windows VST for a moderate investment (Fusion 79$, Windows 2000 license 30$, ipMIDI 79$) and sequence them in your Mac.
Still, we recommend Muse Research Receptor to use VST plugins in a hassle-free, professional production environment.
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I wish Muse would develop a software-only solution who bridges Windows VST audio plugins, but right now using Receptor is the most convenient way.
I will do a quick copy/paste from our support forum:
We have successfully managed to run Discovery Pro + ipMIDI + Fusion with Logic Pro.
Check out the following video. Audio crackles are due high CPU usage (recording real time H.264 video using iShowU and 256 samples latency in both Logic Pro and Jeskola Buzz using ASIO4ALL and Polac ASIO drivers) on a MacBook Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz. Audio still bounces perfectly.
http://www.discodsp.com/mp4/discovery_pro_logic.mov (Requires QT7).
The setup process is very easy. ipMIDI is great but still lacks the audio bridging part. However you can now run Windows VST for a moderate investment (Fusion 79$, Windows 2000 license 30$, ipMIDI 79$) and sequence them in your Mac.
Still, we recommend Muse Research Receptor to use VST plugins in a hassle-free, professional production environment.
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I wish Muse would develop a software-only solution who bridges Windows VST audio plugins, but right now using Receptor is the most convenient way.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
well, I would go so far as to say that using fusion to run windows plugins is the most grossly inefficient thing I have ever heard of, and I doubt you'll get any new customers that way...
Why exactly is a native mac AU plugin out of the question?
Why exactly is a native mac AU plugin out of the question?
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Why? Developing costs and profit. Easy enough.
Receptor allows discoDSP plugins like Discovery Pro to be loaded on a Mac without any CPU performance loss. It's the best solution for both the end user and us.
Receptor allows discoDSP plugins like Discovery Pro to be loaded on a Mac without any CPU performance loss. It's the best solution for both the end user and us.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
No. Its not.george wrote:Why? Developing costs and profit. Easy enough.
Receptor allows discoDSP plugins like Discovery Pro to be loaded on a Mac without any CPU performance loss. It's the best solution for both the end user and us.
Well, except I guess my opinion isn't that of the end user because I can't buy your products.
So you're saying all these other companies offering mac versions of products are losing money on them? I don't think so.
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- KVRAF
- 2187 posts since 25 Jan, 2007 from the back room, away from his wife's sight (or so he thinks)
What non-programmers don't seem to realize is that it's very difficult to make a VST Plugin that does much more than nothing to be portable across windows and mac. Non-programmers also don't tend to know just how difficult it is to port something that was written completely to work only on Windows onto a mac, or vice-versa.
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Can't say better than Chris. Our plugins rely heavily on Windows GDI for GUI stuff, and getting the time, money and right coders for a quality Mac OS port is a no-go on the investment side. AU compatibility on top of that for a native Windows VST makes things even worse.
So let me say my final words regarding this topic: we are focused on Windows, we offer Mac compatibility thru Receptor and we would like to have native AudioUnits products but for a number of reasons it's not possible right now, sorry.
So let me say my final words regarding this topic: we are focused on Windows, we offer Mac compatibility thru Receptor and we would like to have native AudioUnits products but for a number of reasons it's not possible right now, sorry.
Last edited by george on Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 24 Feb, 2005 from Berlin, Germany
If Receptor would only be a little cheaper and would load ALL plug-ins with no exceptions...!
I imagine a new version of Receptor with no display, no knobs, no MIDI, no ADAT, no analog audio... just UNIWIRE, for all those who like me just want to integrate PC plug-ins into a Mac environment (and for PC users too, of course). The price would be much lower, let's say 1/2 of the regular Receptor, I guess it would be a best seller. Personally I'd like to buy a Receptor but price in Europe is quite high and I don't like to pay for all those hardware features I simply don't need.
I imagine a new version of Receptor with no display, no knobs, no MIDI, no ADAT, no analog audio... just UNIWIRE, for all those who like me just want to integrate PC plug-ins into a Mac environment (and for PC users too, of course). The price would be much lower, let's say 1/2 of the regular Receptor, I guess it would be a best seller. Personally I'd like to buy a Receptor but price in Europe is quite high and I don't like to pay for all those hardware features I simply don't need.
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
I think a Receptor mini with just Uniwire may be a successful product. With Mac mini form factor alike and using Receptor software for something like $399. Now that will be sweet.
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- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
This is a little mockup. Original image is © Apple Inc.
Hacking an AppleTV to make Receptor software on it work may be fun stuff for Muse engineers.
Hacking an AppleTV to make Receptor software on it work may be fun stuff for Muse engineers.
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- KVRAF
- 5645 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
I have posted the Receptor mini thing at http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 98#2786398 because I think it's a nice concept.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Anyone know of other plugs that are available for mac that have a nord-esque interface? I know discovery isn't as good as others (such as surge) at emulating the tone of the nord leads (the bright, cutting, yet oddly smooth sound I recall so fondly from my nord lead 2x I had to sell to pay for tuition) but I'd like something with a similar interface and feature set to the synth I learned to program on...