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[memyselfandus]

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[runagate]

Guitar players are so linear.
Is this actually a good idea? To memorize things this way?

Best bet is: listen to what's in your head, learn to play that.

I'd give you a link to what you want after the previous unhelpful semi-serious warning but I don't have one yet.

[Liquidclear]

Guitar players are so linear.
Is this actually a good idea? To memorize things this way?

It can help you be more versatile in playing the same notes/chords in different positions...or pull chords from scales. This can be good for your bag of tricks but not so good if you rely on it.

Best bet is: listen to what's in your head, learn to play that.

Solid Advice!

More on topic, I used a program called Nut Chords awhile back that worked pretty good for chords and scales

[Jake Jackson]

Learn your scales, young man. They are shapes, on a guitar, that repeat. And the other shapes are just modes or scales that derive from them.

[memyselfandus]

Yes yes.. I know..
I just want charts that are completed to show other people.
I suppose I can just make some.

[MoreDread]

http://www.myguitarsolo.com/scales.htm

[robenestobenz]

Guitar players are so linear.
Is this actually a good idea? To memorize things this way?

Best bet is: listen to what's in your head, learn to play that.

Ideal, yes, but easier said than done. They're useful for quickly sketching out the backbone of a progression to decorate or reharmonise later.

Liquidclear's right, Nutchords is a great little tool. Draw or select your chord, hit 'a' and it'll create a chart containing most/all positions on the fretboard.

[mothballs]

On guitar halfstep/wholestep (or the other way around) scales will yield millions of movable shapes. Also wholetone scales. Or just make up your own. Search for Howard Roberts teaching materials. He came up with tons of stuff on movable shapes. Um ... Pat Martino has a pretty complex system based on a few simple moveable shapes as well. Pretty interesting stuff but not for the faint hearted.

[jancivil]

"thinking' in terms of fretboard-dependent shapes, instead of musical lines as what they are, is precisely why guitar players sound the same so often, playing scales. scales CAN be good exercise, but aren't the best bet for thinking musically. There are other ways to get some mechanics. that said, a lot of people seem to like sounding like everyone else. If you want to learn to play melodically, sing melodies, (your ear is the key appendage, don't neglect it, train it)over chords, or drones, or what-have-you and find these shapes in various ways that give you different tone color, via string/position combos.