Steinberg Education License

[dtd]

Dear KVR Community,

excuse me if i didn't find an already existing thread on this topic.

steinberg offers education versions and i'm wondering if there is a different EULA applied to those versions. steinberg has the standard EULA online here:

http://www.steinberg.net/1105_1_.html

but it doesn't mention any special clauses applied to education versions. also, google didn't spit out useful information.

does somebody of you know more details on this (preferably "official", a link to a document from steinberg)? i would be thankful to you.

best wishes and a nice weekend,
dtd

[212121]

You can buy it if you live in the USA and study ANYTHING

In europe shops say you need to study something music related!

f**king unfair! just download the illegal version!!

[dtd]

i would like to add to my question a few specific points:

* can the education version be used commercially? (many education licenses forbid this, but e.g. adobe specifically allows commercial use e.g. in the photoshop education license (not to be confused with their student license), so i think this question is a good one?)

* how is the upgrade path of steinberg's education version? (here again, sometimes upgrading is crippled, but e.g. adobe allows upgrades to later versions with the education license.)

thanks again to everybody for any comments/references.

best wishes,
dtd

[mtilli]

* can the education version be used commercially? (many education licenses forbid this, but e.g. adobe specifically allows commercial use e.g. in the photoshop education license (not to be confused with their student license), so i think this question is a good one?)

No, unfortunately it's only for non-commercial productions.

[dtd]

hi mtilli, thank you for you answer!

can you cite the corresponding EULA or some official document from steinberg saying this? would be of great help, because i searched for such clauses but could not find them. if it is so, it should be written somewhere, prior to purchase.

thanks again, best wishes
dtd

* can the education version be used commercially?
(many education licenses forbid this, but e.g. adobe specifically allows commercial use e.g. in the photoshop education license (not to be confused with their student license), so i think this question is a good one?)

No, unfortunately it's only for non-commercial productions.

[Leeate]

Why don't you ask these questions on cubase.net?
I think you would get exact answers there...
(just don't forget telling that you are now planning to buy, otherwise the mod closes the thread)

Im interested in the answers too.

[mtilli]

hi mtilli, thank you for you answer!

can you cite the corresponding EULA or some official document from steinberg saying this? would be of great help, because i searched for such clauses but could not find them. if it is so, it should be written somewhere, prior to purchase.

thanks again, best wishes
dtd

I looked around Steinberg's site but I couldn't find it there. Maybe it isn't there at all or it's just so well hidden I was wondering same thing myself couple years ago and that was the answer local distributor gave to me.

[HHaynes]

Also try SteinbergUsers site. They have a number and email address that you can use to get more info and provide a copy of your student ID. I'm sure that someone on the other end of that line would be able to tell you.

Of course you might also be able to qualify for the competitive upgrade (same price in US$) if you have a license for one of their competing apps. That way you don't have any use impairment due to the student licensing, if there is any.

[212121]

Also try SteinbergUsers site. They have a number and email address that you can use to get more info and provide a copy of your student ID. I'm sure that someone on the other end of that line would be able to tell you.

Of course you might also be able to qualify for the competitive upgrade (same price in US$) if you have a license for one of their competing apps. That way you don't have any use impairment due to the student licensing, if there is any.

Only for the US? yeah right

[HHaynes]

Only for the US? yeah right

Without your location listed - it's hard to know who's in the US and who's not - and grammar is certainly no indicator since most folks in other countries have better English than the US or the UK.

So - if you're in another country - contact the distributer. Some things really *are* that simple. It may not be easy, depending on the support from the distributer, it is *is* really that simple.

[212121]

In europe they won't sell me!!! They say i need to study somthing music related! But shops in the US sell it to ANY student! Thats just f**king unfair!!! As a student and having NO-profit projects i can't give so much money

[loachm]

In europe they won't sell me!!! They say i need to study somthing music related! But shops in the US sell it to ANY student! Thats just f**king unfair!!! As a student and having NO-profit projects i can't give so much money

...you also don't pay VAT in (I think, most states of) the USA - OMG! In some countries people are starving and here the supermarkets are full with food - how unfair! The USD is low, if I just could pay with it instead of Euros! I'm a student and have no regular income - it's not right that Mercedes won't sell a car at an academic price to me! You see your point?

However, companies don't have to offer student versions at all - it's their choice to do so and under which circumstances. After all I don't think it is true that you have to study something music related (if they haven't changed their policy recently) - I have an email from a Steinberg representative from this spring stating that every student is eligible for an academic version. But I admit, they could have changed this during the year...

(...btw - I'm a student, too and seem to have been dumb enough for all theses years to not having taken the advantage of academic prices... )

[212121]

In europe they won't sell me!!! They say i need to study somthing music related! But shops in the US sell it to ANY student! Thats just f**king unfair!!! As a student and having NO-profit projects i can't give so much money

...you also don't pay VAT in (I think, most states of) the USA - OMG! In some countries people are starving and here the supermarkets are full with food - how unfair! The USD is low, if I just could pay with it instead of Euros! I'm a student and have no regular income - it's not right that Mercedes won't sell a car at an academic price to me! You see your point?

However, companies don't have to offer student versions at all - it's their choice to do so and under which circumstances. After all I don't think it is true that you have to study something music related (if they haven't changed their policy recently) - I have an email from a Steinberg representative from this spring stating that every student is eligible for an academic version. But I admit, they could have changed this during the year...

(...btw - I'm a student, too and seem to have been dumb enough for all theses years to not having taken the advantage of academic prices... )

I was talking about US > Europe, thats why i used the word unfair, maybe the right word would be discrimination, too bad i'll get the illegal version!

[careyletendre]

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[soulata]

I bought an academic version of SL 3 and upgraded to Cubase 4 Studio (upgrade was the same price as non-academic to C4S - according to the dongle - it doesn't mention C4S being academic version at all)


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