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dannypadoan · Post by **dannypadoan** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:38 pm

im trying to start to get into producing this type of house and im struggling to get that warm bass sound like in

eric prydz - call on me
thomas bangalter - together
daft punk - one more time

so if anyone can help me and point me in the right direction would be greatcheers

Summa · Post by **Summa** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:30 am

Those artist mostly use original 70s/80s loops...

http://palmsout.blogspot.com/2007/02/sa ... -punk.html

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:53 am

Agreed!

1st get yourself a good oldschool disco and or 80's pop song with either an open rhythmic break or a catchy hook.

2nd put this into your host, sampler or audio editor and get the proper timing length down pat.

3rd load up a LPF effect with 32 or 48dB and resonance features. Put the frequency down to say 1000 - 300khz and play around with the resonance amount.

4th get a drumloop at the same tempo as the bass loop's length and layer it overtop or put it on another track.

Press play and you should hear a warm catchy bassline playing under the drum loop!

HTH

L

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:40 am

Ok so I'm sticking my neck out on this but I slapped together a quick and dirty audio example to show what I was saying before..

Here is the audio at the different stages..

Basically I took the 1st 4 bars from the track You Belong to Me by The Doobie Brothers and looped it. I then opened it into CoolEdit Pro sped it up to 120bpm. I then filtered it down to about 500khz. I threw the loop into AudioMulch and added the default (crappy) drumkit that comes with AM. I added the classic digigrunge and messed around with the arrangement of the drums and effected bassline a bit and thats it!

L

MaliceX · Post by **MaliceX** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:43 am

dannypadoan wrote:thomas bangalter - together
daft punk - one more time

Just for the record, Thomas Bangalter is half of Daft Punk.

dannypadoan · Post by **dannypadoan** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:14 am

i did know that but his mate didint help him do together dj falcon did

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:58 am

BTW dannypadoan you did not mention what host you use..

L

bleepsnbreaks · Post by **bleepsnbreaks** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:24 am

Another heavily used thing in french house is side chain compression.....

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:14 am

Lagrange wrote:Ok so I'm sticking my neck out on this but I slapped together a quick and dirty audio example to show what I was saying before..

Here is the audio at the different stages..

Basically I took the 1st 4 bars from the track You Belong to Me by The Doobie Brothers and looped it. I then opened it into CoolEdit Pro sped it up to 120bpm. I then filtered it down to about 500khz. I threw the loop into AudioMulch and added the default (crappy) drumkit that comes with AM. I added the classic digigrunge and messed around with the arrangement of the drums and effected bassline a bit and thats it!

L

That is just a great demonstration.

EtienneDXFan · Post by **EtienneDXFan** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:03 pm

Great work LaGrange.

Action that puts sound to the words.

Yeah!

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:09 pm

Thanks for the complements guys

! It was just a real super quick simple example.. Its just a starting point of what can be done with loops etc. Of course one could layer much more elaborate arrangements over this to add much more interest and depth.. Also a vocal loop always supplies some spice

...

Just remember this.. If your planing on releasing on a label.. The more loops you use.. the more rights you have to get.. the more expensive it'l get (spoken from 1st hand experience)! One really cool trick to getting around sample rights issues is to get a sample loop going, find instruments that sound close to the loops, replay everything with a tad different arrangement/different scale and then try to copy/emulate the layering, eqing, compression used in the original

. I've learned so much from delving into samples and figuring out how the original artist composed and created those timeless hits (even some cheese tracks from way back when have interesting musical components when you pull them apart)..

L

huguesbc · Post by **huguesbc** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:14 pm

Gated pads are quite popular in french house music. Try feeding a compressor a pad and sidechain it with the kick drum.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:28 pm

All good stuff.

But Im sorry, didnt he ask about bass sounds?

I know that Prydz gets some particular nice chunky bass sounds. Perhaps the best thing is for you to post examples of tunes where the bass line is clearly audiable. The tracks listed, as already shown, contain samples that mask any synth bass sound beneath them.

TB

huguesbc · Post by **huguesbc** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:36 pm

> Those artist mostly use original 70s/80s loops...

For drums and bass.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:49 am

The same as in my example just filter down more and increase the resonance..

L

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