does nobody use aodix?

[r2101]

hiho, just wondered a bit whilst surfing the net. there are lots of sites and news about buzz & psycle etc, but almost nobody mentions aodix - which is in my opinion superb!
it looks more like a traditional tracker than buzz & psycle (which are nice too..but...) runs stable, supports vstis & vst fx - why isn´t it mentioned more frequently?!!!
and the sound quality is amazing...
and it´s such a small download
i felt right at home with the gui... last time i tracked twas in the beginning of the 90s with an amiga 500 & protracker...
greetings - r2101

[mistertoast]

It's great and sounds great, but I find Psycle's way of hooking up machines much easier. And Buzz's multi-pattern system makes it easier to construct a whole song that doesn't all sound the same. Psycle will soon be getting a mulit-pattern system as well.

Aodix is ideal for creating loops, in my opinion.

For awhile, Arguru made noises about making an Aodix-like VSTi that could be plugged into VST hosts. Now THAT would be cool.

[AntiPro]

You are both deceived. There's only one tracker, and that's Renoise. Costing only 45$ and damn good shit!

[pHz]

thanks for [another] renoise advert antipro

For awhile, Arguru made noises about making an Aodix-like VSTi that could be plugged into VST hosts. Now THAT would be cool.

[from the discoDSP site] -

Sep 16 2002 – Cyberride



Cyberride is a VSTi Sampler/Tracker with integrated step sequencer and awesome sound quality. This project is under development and is expected to be released in the first quarter of 2003.

Some features:

* 128 patterns/32-track step sequencer.
* 128 programs/128 samplelayers per program.
* 4 assignable stereo outputs.
* Support of own format module, Akai programs and WAV files.
* 32-bit internal mixing.
* 6-Point interpolation.

so there you go - gone a bit quiet since though

still dont understand why anyone would want to write music in a spreadsheet though - to me its like trying to reproduce the mona lisa on an etch-a-sketch

slainte rob

[mistertoast]

>>still dont understand why anyone would want to write music in a spreadsheet though - to me its like trying to reproduce the mona lisa on an etch-a-sketch

For two things.

1. Drums and hats. Trackers give you insane control.
2. For very detailed lead work. In Psycle, you put, say, Tau2 in a track. Then you use other tracks to tweak the knobs.

Other than that, I guess you're right.

I just think of it as an insanely superior blown-out step sequencer. Doesn't that make sense?

[pHz]

I just think of it as an insanely superior blown-out step sequencer. Doesn't that make sense?

yeah - its just the numbers thing freaks me out every time i try to get my head round trackers [and i did spend some time with buzz and psycle when i 1st got into the pc music thing] - im a very visual person and the only remotely tracker like apps [in terms of the control over samples they give you] ive ever got into are tuareg and moonfish

slainte rob

[VitaminD]

you can compose complex piano melodies really easily too in a tracker..

I remember using impulse tracker.. you could go every 'step' and hit f7 (i think) and it would play starting that step (wherever the cursor was at).. so you could check for discord or what have you per step (or tick).. I havent found another method of working that allows me (the non-piano player) to work this way.

and hex isnt that hard to understand.. if you make websites with different colors.. you know the basis already...


I guess you have to be very patient though... as writing up big things can become tedious and time consuming

[mistertoast]

Renoise is great, and the developers are great. It's not at the top of my list now, but I suspect someday it will be. I'll buy it when it has a Psycle/Buzz wiring scheme and a Piano Roll.

[pHz]

Renoise is great, and the developers are great. It's not at the top of my list now, but I suspect someday it will be. I'll buy it when it has a Psycle/Buzz wiring scheme and a Piano Roll.

so - when it becomes the next evolution of massiva / energyXT ???


slainte rob

[mistertoast]

I gotta tell ya--EnergyXT looks very appealing. I'm sorely tempted by it.

[pHz]

you should be - its great

and set to become MUCH better soon

slainte rob

[loomchild]

>>1. Drums and hats. Trackers give you insane control.
2. For very detailed lead work. In Psycle, you put, say, Tau2 in a track. Then you use other tracks to tweak the knobs.
?

Hi, I have used trackers for years, I must confess that whether you use a tracker pattern column or a piano roll, the control is quite the same. The only things that you could miss on a piano roll are the pattern effects which are indeed a quite convenient way to reduce the number of operations you're doing i.e in the case you want to retrig a note ('flam') it can be basically done with one command instead of drawing several notes, but in that case the drawing gives you more flexibility liek the ability to play with the volume the way you want to. But I'd say that the tracker interface is more interesting for all the other track effects: arpeggios, pitch slide up/down, volume slide that you most likely don't use much on drums but more on the leads or chords.

However, it's all a matter of what you feel comfortable with. Once you're used to an editing method it's pretty hard to switch.

[mistertoast]

>>But I'd say that the tracker interface is more interesting for all the other track effects: arpeggios, pitch slide up/down, volume slide that you most likely don't use much on drums but more on the leads or chords.

OK. It's really the lead effects where trackers shine for the effects tracks.

For the drums and hats, I was thinking about how easily and precisely you can move things around with note delays, plus how easy it is to organize which percussion sounds interrupt which other percussion sounds by track selection. That is, do you put the bass and the snares in the same track? When you out an open hat in, do you give it its own track so it can ring out? Or do you drop it in with the closed hats to squelch it?

It just seems to me that I'm still faster with drums in a tracker than a piano roll. And my leads are more detailed there. For chords, I'd rather be in a piano roll.