FR theme: Gimmeback (features from eXT1 missing in XT2)

[aMUSEd]

So we need the reliability of the new version with the configurability of the old.

[Ja.x]

And did I mention the time counter ?

[insertpizhere]

http://thepiz.org/xt/counter.zip

i know, it's not quite the same... seems to only work in 4/4 too. maybe XT2 isn't sending the time signature in the timeinfo?

[Ja.x]

http://thepiz.org/xt/counter.zip

i know, it's not quite the same...

Thanks. In fact I'm not in a hurry for the counter, because I'm taking my time to move to eXT2 (I only started to take it seriously in this last beta). Just pointing out it's an important feature missing. It has been asked in the past by me and other members in different threads and so far has been ignored.

By the way: did I read at some point about an eXT1 files converter ?

[tjvigil66]

Can we have velocity color coded notes?? it was reallt handy with ext1, and it could be even more handy with the new drum track.

you mean something like this?



Ill see what I can do

cheers
jorgen

So where's the obligatory pic of XT2 with live mode functionality???

[soma]

In my opinion live component in XT1 was a great idea but a flop for live use.
I ened up using it as a tool but not as it was intended because it was too burdensome to setup.

I want a live mode that automatically sees all the patterns I've made and doesn't require any setup. Just open it up and start recording my pattern triggering. No one has come close to beating Ableton at this but I believe there is still lots of room for improvement.

I could start a thread with pictures as we get closer but I really feel this has to be one of the last things to get done because it is so important, needs focus and is dependent on parts and recording being flawless.

[tjvigil66]

Soma,

I definitely agree with you that XT 1.4.1's live mode isn't ideal, but it was getting so close before 1.x work stopped. I was really hoping that Jorgen would have spent a few 1.x versions more to get live mode into the sweet spot. Admittedly, Ableton is still the tops for all around live use but I do enjoy using eXT 1.4.1 as a live instrument.

I know there is still a ton of stuff that comes before live mode stuff. Unfortunately, I can't use XT2 (except as VST) until live mode functionality is put in the mix.

[adam standring]

Step Input! Please bring it back, Jorgen!

[Caleb]

In my opinion live component in XT1 was a great idea but a flop for live use.
I ened up using it as a tool but not as it was intended because it was too burdensome to setup.

I want a live mode that automatically sees all the patterns I've made and doesn't require any setup. Just open it up and start recording my pattern triggering. No one has come close to beating Ableton at this but I believe there is still lots of room for improvement.

I could start a thread with pictures as we get closer but I really feel this has to be one of the last things to get done because it is so important, needs focus and is dependent on parts and recording being flawless.

I absolutely agree with you Soma. I think the Live mode was the best thing in XT1 that didn't work.

That's why I'm excited about XT2 Live mode, because it was clear in earlier posts that jorgen had ideas about how this would work and that it would be a new and improved live mode.

I think a Live mode should be not just good for live performance, but for live composition/arranging. Anything that bridges the gap between composing and performing is welcome as far as I'm concerned.

I'm hopeful that XT2 can do it. Go jorgen go!

Regards
Caleb

[Caleb]

OT

I too liked the old arp, because you could program a pattern but the random in the new on is nice. For me a perfect arp would be a step sequencer that uses chord info.

For example, let's suppose you've programmed a four-step pattern with note transpositions of 0, 2, 5, and -2. If you hold only one key on the keyboard, such as a D, the pattern will produce the series D-E-G-C. But when you hold a D minor triad (D, F, A), the arpeggiator will apply a different transposition to each note in the arpeggio. This table shows the result:

Chord, Note, Transposition Output
D 0 D
F 2 G
A 5 octave D
D -2 C
F 0 F
A 2 B
D 5 G
F -2 Eb
A 0 A
D 2 E
F 5 Bb
etc.

take a look at this article and the Virsyn TERA arp.
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/o ... tml?page=2

along the lines of right click Replace, it would be nice to have "insert" to add an effect auto connected. anyway, that's not an old feature.

I've always wanted something like the Midi Part from XT1 but with the ability to input chord information.

All the sophistication of a midi editor coupled with the performance of an ARP. I would pay extra for that.

In fact, given that "Clips" in XT2 are such a big concept, it would be nice if it could just be added into the clip itself rather than have a separate device.

That might not make the modular guys terribly happy though.

Regards
Caleb

[druid]

In fact, given that "Clips" in XT2 are such a big concept, ..

You know what I'd like to see? Clips that have entire arrangements in them. I guess, a sequencer for patterns. I was used to writing patterns in Buzz Tracker and arranging them how I like.

That could be done with clips... Maybe?

[jens]

You know what I'd like to see? Clips that have entire arrangements in them. I guess, a sequencer for patterns. I was used to writing patterns in Buzz Tracker and arranging them how I like.

you mean like the multi-mode in eXT 1.x?

[druid]

More or less, yeah. I never tried that mode unfortunately, it wasn't quite what I wanted then I got too busy to give it a proper go and get used to it, and I think multimode had it's drawbacks didn't it?

But along those lines, yes.

[Radek]

The best would be something a la RPS in Roland's Fantoms. You could have multiple timelines in a sequencer comp and a trigger input to it. It should allow to start/stop play using mapped midi keys for an example. Then chain patterns in a song.

It's very important ihmo because it's relatively easy to have say 8 bar running but putting out a complete arrangement can be much more difficult. Every helper in this regard is very welcome.

[soma]

For once I'm on the side of less is more.
When the live view comes I want to make sure that it is super quick, requires no setup and straight forward. For those reasons, I think having a clip be just a clip makes more sense.

I'd rather have "scenes" for grouped clips.