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What do you think?

10 = Excellent
27
27%
9 = Exceptional
9
9%
8 = Very good
14
14%
8 = Very good
14
14%
7 = Good Enough
4
4%
6 = Interesting
14
14%
5 = not bad
6
6%
3-4 = not good enough
11
11%
 
Total votes: 99

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Ladies a Gentlemen it is official Waldorf Blofeld is out!!! It costs only 400 Euros!!!

Rate it
http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/products/ ... d_overview

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have you seen their rhodes/wurly one too?
will look so nice on stage
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11 = no compromises Waldorf quality at a remarkable price. An excellent price even if it was software only, without hardware costs for them. They are bound to gain huge success.
Audio demos are fabulous. The guy who voted 3-4 needs to have his ears cut. They are of no use to him anyway.

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Very Nice! I am reading the book "analog synthesizers" by Mark Jenkins who is a synthesists musician and a collector and he is really getting me thinking about sound design in a different way. he is really into modular synths, not so much for the sound quality but for the sheer modulation possibilities that are almost impossible with fixed path synths. obviously dave smiths instruments aside the Blofeld seems ripe for just that sort of thing. anybody know the rough Euro to US$ conversion?-gospel
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looks very nice and all that - but it is basicaly a micro q in an different box and those were about 400 euro about 4 years ago - OK it has been updated a reasonable amount (although didnt that have an audio in for vocoding and the like ?) - but I'm a little dissapointed to discover that the usb connection just handles midi

if it had virus tiesque audio integration I would be all over this
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.

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Not only that, the Blofeld includes all ROM Wavetables from the mighty flagship Waldorf Wave as well as Microwave II/XT. Plus, lo and behold, the desperately requested "Upper Wavetable" from the good old PPG Wave! But, for the first time in the history of Waldorf and PPG, each of these two oscillators can have its own wavetable.

What's more, you have control over the brilliance of these wavetables, which is especially important for waves with lots of harmonics in the bass end. You decide if you prefer pure and perfect harmonics or the same edgy timbre you know and love from the earlier Waldorf and PPG synthesizers.

Brilliance also affects the sawtooth and pulse oscillator models. From warm and soft (for those typical L.A. string pads) to the hard shapes you need for punchy and biting bass sounds. But note, Brilliance is not a simple filter applied after the oscillators, the model itself is modified.
The Blofeld offers a freely controllable "Drive" behind each filter with more than a dozen curves. These include such standards as the drive from the Q and Micro Q, low/medium/hard saturation, tube saturation, two types of electric pickups, a rectifier, digital overflow as well as esoteric stuff such as "binary distortion", a sinusoidal waveshaper and even a distortion controlled by oscillator 1. And because the Blofeld has two filters that can be routed in series, you can control the timbre of the drive output of Filter 1 by dampening or emphasizing certain frequencies with filter 2.
And more.
Much more than an "updated microQ".

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Send an email to Waldorf yesterday night, received the reply very early this morning. That is what I call customer support.

Here is the email

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Hi,

1) Is there a midi in?

Yes!

2) Is there a midi out?

No, not a physical MIDI Out jacket, but via UB MIDI

3) Is there a USB port?

Yes!

4) How is the USB port used?

- transmitting and receiving of MIDI data
- duming operating system updates
- data exchange with suited computer software


5) Is there going to be an editor included and will it take advantage
of the USB port? If yes is MAC OS going to be supported?

Not with the first release of Blofeld. We will ever support both platforms, PC and Mac.

6) Can the instrument used as VST plugin through the USB port? If
yes, which DAWs will be supported?

No!

7) When is the official release date of the Blofeld?

Within the next week!


Still I would like to congratulate for Blofeld it seems that you
actually have a new customer , me!!!

:-)

I only hope that the OS of this instrument is pretty stable, or
should I wait for the next updates?

It is very stable, trust me. I'm a fan of the Blofeld, too :-)

All the Best,

Holger
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Waldorf Support Team

Waldorf Music GmbH HRB: Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler 20433
Neustrasse 12 USt-ID: DE250453192
D-53498 Waldorf Geschäftsführer: Stefan Stenzel, Kurt Wangard

http://www.waldorfmusic.de

I think it clarifies many things.

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kilon, is there a misprint when it says "we will ever support both platforms" should that say never or is is the guy saying the will always support both.

ericj 23, maybe this a little off topic but it seems that hardware producers have very little interest in adding USB Audio capability. many synth, samplers and fx units have USB but most are only for data/midi/sample transfer. it seems to me this would be a big plus to many consumers AND pretty much the ultimate copy protection. i don't think it would be that hard to do. it seems to me (i am not a programer/developer) that software integration would only require USB Audio which is a different kind of USB connector so there is no hope of USB Audio for units with USB data only ports and then adapting the on-screen editor/librarian to function as a VSTi or AUi. the editor would only act as a bridge between the DAW and the hardware. so the VSTi wouldn't have any code to make sound it would only draw sound from the synth. so no synth no sound the ultimate copy protection. thoughts?-gospel
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Gospel: since I know typical "German English", "we will ever support" means "we will always support", or (kind of funny in English) "we will forever support" :).

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DEAR FRIENDS I AM PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE JUST ORDERED WALDORF BLOFELD FROM THOMANN.

http://www.thomann.de/gr/waldorf_blofeld.htm

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Software in a tabletop unit...yawn
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Shy wrote:
Not only that, the Blofeld includes all ROM Wavetables from the mighty flagship Waldorf Wave as well as Microwave II/XT. Plus, lo and behold, the desperately requested "Upper Wavetable" from the good old PPG Wave! But, for the first time in the history of Waldorf and PPG, each of these two oscillators can have its own wavetable.

What's more, you have control over the brilliance of these wavetables, which is especially important for waves with lots of harmonics in the bass end. You decide if you prefer pure and perfect harmonics or the same edgy timbre you know and love from the earlier Waldorf and PPG synthesizers.

Brilliance also affects the sawtooth and pulse oscillator models. From warm and soft (for those typical L.A. string pads) to the hard shapes you need for punchy and biting bass sounds. But note, Brilliance is not a simple filter applied after the oscillators, the model itself is modified.
The Blofeld offers a freely controllable "Drive" behind each filter with more than a dozen curves. These include such standards as the drive from the Q and Micro Q, low/medium/hard saturation, tube saturation, two types of electric pickups, a rectifier, digital overflow as well as esoteric stuff such as "binary distortion", a sinusoidal waveshaper and even a distortion controlled by oscillator 1. And because the Blofeld has two filters that can be routed in series, you can control the timbre of the drive output of Filter 1 by dampening or emphasizing certain frequencies with filter 2.
And more.
Much more than an "updated microQ".
extra wavetables with morphing (but still not as powerful as massive or even z3ta) and a few more filter drive models and the loss of the ability to use the inputs as effects box for external signals does not sound much different to a micro q to me

but my point was more that this is hardly a revolutionary synth - its a bunch of 5 year old waldorf technology in a smaller box - very nice technology but hardly the re-birth of waldorf as the forward thinking synth makers they once were
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.

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ericj23: there are more things. And the interface (menus, parameters, etc) is probably one of the best hardware synths have ever had.
Of course it's not a revolutionary synth as far as the synthesis usage itself goes. But it definitely is unique, and that's what is actually important nowadays because there's hardly ever "revolutionary" hardware synths with new, previously unknown features coming out. The implementations are unique. Their own flexibiliy and sound in the various sections (filters, oscillators - now with the abovementioned 'brilliance' feature, the wavetables, various stuff). I'd say that many of Waldorf's developments up until now packed in one very affordable hardware synth is in some ways revolutionary.

For a truly "revolutionary" hardware synth, you can check Korg's open architecture synth, Oasys for example. That's one huge and terrific system. It has its own great parts, but it's an Oasys, it also has its own sound and doesn't sound even a bit like some previous well known Korg synths, or builds upon their characteristics. That's perfectly fine, because it doesn't even attempt to. Synths like Biofeld and the upcoming Stromberg are all about building upon years of development and improvement of existing synthesis components they've been working on, while adding features and increasing flexibility. Same for the Virus TI for example. That's one way of doing things: building upon, improving, and adding to existing well-established technologies.

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Here we go again, comparing software with hardware. Oh my they never learn.

For the big difference compared to MicroQ is the bigger screen and the the fact that everything is on top making it easier to use and much easier to edit.

Actually from a comparison of two very important differences.

1) Micro in Multimode has 5 effects while blofeld has 16 (1 per part)
2) Blofeld has much more complex envelops
3) Each part in Part has its own arpeggiator (16 arpeggiators) which has also a lot more features compared to microq
4) 1000 sounds compared to 400 of microq
5)All Wavetables from Microwave II/XT/XTk Series with adjustable Brilliance
6)Separate Wavetable selectable for Oscillator 1 and 2
7) More filter types
8) 1 more LFO
9)2 Drive stages per voice with selectable Drive Curves
etc
etc.

I mean what more a mere human might want, as if there is a user out there that uses all these features in software or hardware.

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..could someone explain to this dimwitted fool how a synth like this is integrated into a DAW? For instance, can you hook it up to a midi keyboard? Will it send/receive midi commands to/from a host? Etc..etc..
'This too shall pass'

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