Host for keyboardist?
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- KVRist
- 115 posts since 21 Oct, 2005
I'm keyboardist and from a lot of time I'm looking for a VST host really suitable for live performances. What I consider something of indispensable is:
- a very flexible midi implementation with articulated midi filter able
to transform every kind of MIDI message in another one or
cut definitively it
- a very flexible midi routing for supply MIDI message to every VST plugs
but also to external hardware synthesizer.
- a little MIDI sequencer not very strong just for some little pre recorded
parts.
- an audio file player perfectly integrated in sync with transport commands
for play complex bases pre recorded in wave format.
- and most important: a system to recall a complete song with VST plugs,
layout MIDI implementation, wave file player with the right wave file
loaded and program change for external synth, that all via a program change
sent by my master keyboard.
- finally the transport commands must be remapped for start and stop via
MIDI message
does this exist?
Cheers,
Gianluca
- a very flexible midi implementation with articulated midi filter able
to transform every kind of MIDI message in another one or
cut definitively it
- a very flexible midi routing for supply MIDI message to every VST plugs
but also to external hardware synthesizer.
- a little MIDI sequencer not very strong just for some little pre recorded
parts.
- an audio file player perfectly integrated in sync with transport commands
for play complex bases pre recorded in wave format.
- and most important: a system to recall a complete song with VST plugs,
layout MIDI implementation, wave file player with the right wave file
loaded and program change for external synth, that all via a program change
sent by my master keyboard.
- finally the transport commands must be remapped for start and stop via
MIDI message
does this exist?
Cheers,
Gianluca
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- KVRAF
- 1789 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Bretagne, the west of France
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 115 posts since 21 Oct, 2005
Thank you Kara
I tested Usine and gave me the impression of an useless exasperation of modularity concept. Every thing must be made by hands, also a simple keyboard split is a problem to implement and can be achieve only by a script. Maybe this exasperation is functional to a very deep flexibility but from my point of view this risk to bring me far from my main goal that remain music and creativity. Transform me in a programmers every time I need an immediate and straight tool to implement a support for play live a song is something very different from my attitude. In example I tested and used for many time Energy XT the first version 1. 4 and I found this more near to what I look for but his programmer started a new version XT2 and seem to me hi turned in another direction.
And version 1.4 is obviously no more developed and leaved with his limits and bugs.
I tested Usine and gave me the impression of an useless exasperation of modularity concept. Every thing must be made by hands, also a simple keyboard split is a problem to implement and can be achieve only by a script. Maybe this exasperation is functional to a very deep flexibility but from my point of view this risk to bring me far from my main goal that remain music and creativity. Transform me in a programmers every time I need an immediate and straight tool to implement a support for play live a song is something very different from my attitude. In example I tested and used for many time Energy XT the first version 1. 4 and I found this more near to what I look for but his programmer started a new version XT2 and seem to me hi turned in another direction.
And version 1.4 is obviously no more developed and leaved with his limits and bugs.
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- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 115 posts since 21 Oct, 2005
Excuse me.
I forgot something very important.
I need something for Windows.
Cheers,
Gianluca
I forgot something very important.
I need something for Windows.
Cheers,
Gianluca
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- KVRist
- 308 posts since 11 Feb, 2004 from Sydney
Hi. I've been using EnergyXT for my sound module when playing keyboards live.
I know what you mean with XT2 taking a different direction. However, the mixer in XT2, and quick project loading, make it worth persisting with I think. I currently load up XT1.4 inside XT2 to do all my MIDI processing and it works really well.
I know what you mean with XT2 taking a different direction. However, the mixer in XT2, and quick project loading, make it worth persisting with I think. I currently load up XT1.4 inside XT2 to do all my MIDI processing and it works really well.
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- KVRAF
- 1703 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark
CubaseGianluca13_2 wrote:I'm keyboardist and from a lot of time I'm looking for a VST host really suitable for live performances. What I consider something of indispensable is:
- a very flexible midi implementation with articulated midi filter able
to transform every kind of MIDI message in another one or
cut definitively it
- a very flexible midi routing for supply MIDI message to every VST plugs
but also to external hardware synthesizer.
- a little MIDI sequencer not very strong just for some little pre recorded
parts.
- an audio file player perfectly integrated in sync with transport commands
for play complex bases pre recorded in wave format.
- and most important: a system to recall a complete song with VST plugs,
layout MIDI implementation, wave file player with the right wave file
loaded and program change for external synth, that all via a program change
sent by my master keyboard.
- finally the transport commands must be remapped for start and stop via
MIDI message
does this exist?
Cheers,
Gianluca
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"Accept All the Good"
Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy
"Accept All the Good"
Sound design for SQ8L and Alchemy
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- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 115 posts since 21 Oct, 2005
Mmmm…
Temper seem an interesting nice object. I hope to see this little become a big. For the moment it
Raise very well. Still some lack some little bug but……
Thank for replays.
Gianluca
Temper seem an interesting nice object. I hope to see this little become a big. For the moment it
Raise very well. Still some lack some little bug but……
Thank for replays.
Gianluca
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
I thought of Project5. I'm not sure if the current (v2.5) has a demo or not, I know there was one for 2.0.
Doug
Doug
Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad - Spock, in "I, Mudd"
For a good time click http://www.belindabedekovic.com/video_fl_en.htm
For a good time click http://www.belindabedekovic.com/video_fl_en.htm
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 115 posts since 21 Oct, 2005
One of the feature most critical for me is the songs recall. I play around thirty, song for every concert with five musicians in the stage. I can't search every song with a mouse in a monitor. Some time I can't neither see the monitor cause light condition or reflex produced by the sun or by lights. And more there is no time. I must launch a song in absolutely certitude in the most quick way as possible. The click metronome must start ,right bases must play and me with absolute correct setup must start to play the right synthesizer with the right sound in the right zone of keyboard. I encountered just four software able to recall a song in some way: Energy XT 1.4 with file mapping feature, Forte with scene system feature, Cantabile with quick session system and Kore with something similar to Forte scene system. But every one have some other strange limit or some dangerous bug making it no completely suitable or worst reliable All the others software I know are not able to do that. And seem to me this is a feature very easy to implement and to imagine. So I don't understand way this is a lack in the majority of software I know.
Not so different is the situation in the side of midi filters.
I think no one for the moment have really thought and realized a software for us keyboardist.
Cheers Gianluca
Not so different is the situation in the side of midi filters.
I think no one for the moment have really thought and realized a software for us keyboardist.
Cheers Gianluca
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
IIRC, Forte is the software used in the OpenLabs Neko, and it's specifically designed for gigging musicians. If you can give the folk over at http://www.brainspawn.com some feedback, maybe they can address it.
Doug
Doug
Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad - Spock, in "I, Mudd"
For a good time click http://www.belindabedekovic.com/video_fl_en.htm
For a good time click http://www.belindabedekovic.com/video_fl_en.htm
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
VstHost also has an interesting song recall system called "performances", the MIDI-filters are also quite powerful ...- and most important: a system to recall a complete song with VST plugs,
layout MIDI implementation, wave file player with the right wave file
loaded and program change for external synth, that all via a program change
sent by my master keyboard.


