Wasnt too sure weather to put this in PT or here..
Trying to figure out the relative time signature for this recording..
Listen here
Please listen far enough in to hear the switch (after the 1st early bridge). I've been trying to count it out but keep getting confused. It's like an illusion as the mix masks out the backing beat then changes up as to confuse the senses. You have to listen closely (btw you can fast forward and rewind thru the song)!
Thanks for any help..
L
Trying to calc the time sig.
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
It's 6/8 (or 6/4 or 3/4, whatever), but in the first 2 minutes the bass drum is on 4 and 6, not 1 and 3. If you count it like that it just keeps going.
Listen to the melody. It's pretty much on the beat throughout.
Towards the end it all gets a bit syncopated.
Victor.
Listen to the melody. It's pretty much on the beat throughout.
Towards the end it all gets a bit syncopated.
Victor.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
there are too many ambiguities to say anything very meaningful about a single time signature.
It does a number of things with a sort of hemiola (in this case a four in the time of three, eg., a 12/8 with doubled-up dotted values (dotted 16ths, giving four against the last dotted quarter *4:3*
it also does things like 12 = 7 + 5; the downbeat is variable and it's hard to gauge where one is most of the time. I counted some nines, some tens...
you'd have to ask the musicians who played it exactly what's going on, I suspect
It does a number of things with a sort of hemiola (in this case a four in the time of three, eg., a 12/8 with doubled-up dotted values (dotted 16ths, giving four against the last dotted quarter *4:3*
it also does things like 12 = 7 + 5; the downbeat is variable and it's hard to gauge where one is most of the time. I counted some nines, some tens...
you'd have to ask the musicians who played it exactly what's going on, I suspect
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5629 posts since 22 Sep, 2005
jancivil I'm so thankful for your explanation. The fact that you specifically say the downbeat is variable is pretty much where my head is at on this. Now I know I'm not losing it 
..Much appreciated!
L
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- KVRer
- 18 posts since 21 Jul, 2007
Who/what is this? It's alright!
I thought it was from Brazil or some kind of French/North African stuff until the singing....digging the Stevie Wonder/Steely Dan-ish chords.
The key is to find the steady pulse that you can tap your foot to all throughout the syncopations and polyrythms weaving in and out....tap your foot to the hi-hat, three counts each tap: ONE two three, ONE two three, ONE two three.
After a while, you'll feel how everything else interlocks and I can imagine that variable downbeat having some regularity in the big picture...macrorhythmically, if I may
The rhythm is interesting, and more than likely African in origin....it'll take a few listens to understand it.
I thought it was from Brazil or some kind of French/North African stuff until the singing....digging the Stevie Wonder/Steely Dan-ish chords.
The key is to find the steady pulse that you can tap your foot to all throughout the syncopations and polyrythms weaving in and out....tap your foot to the hi-hat, three counts each tap: ONE two three, ONE two three, ONE two three.
After a while, you'll feel how everything else interlocks and I can imagine that variable downbeat having some regularity in the big picture...macrorhythmically, if I may
The rhythm is interesting, and more than likely African in origin....it'll take a few listens to understand it.
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- KVRian
- 759 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from fi
What the hell is this tune? It sounds kind of Fertile Ground meets Jazzanova nujazz / nusoul except that it's much more vibey and less boring than anything I've heard from either recently...
edit: hmm, the singer kind of sounds like Fertile Ground's Navasha Daya... I wonder if it IS actually them
edit: hmm, the singer kind of sounds like Fertile Ground's Navasha Daya... I wonder if it IS actually them
never stop loving music.