KVR Audio

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:21 pm

K-Slash wrote:
disturb wrote:it definitely can't handle most of the settings you dialed in this first mp3...
What do you mean ?

can't you hear those crackety/clicky artifacts ?

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:23 pm

disturb wrote:
K-Slash wrote:
disturb wrote:it definitely can't handle most of the settings you dialed in this first mp3...
What do you mean ?
can't you hear those crackety/clicky artifacts ?

Yeah I listened again, and you're right, some cracks like old vinyl happens... Too bad

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bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:26 pm

I think the mp3 is not doing a very good job of advertising this compressor. In fact, it sounds rather horrible.

- bManic

benlogan · Post by **benlogan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:32 pm

You guys are so critical! I think it sounds cool. The creator advertises the thing as a character compressor. It lends character, and a pretty unique one at that. If I didn't have an 1176LN plug, I might go for one of these.

Stupid American Pig · Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:32 pm

I hear lots of clipping, or clicking and popping.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:39 pm

I forgot to say, those drums are UNPROCESSED,
only S l a m m e r was used on the sum.

The 1st groove is dry btw.

Yes, they dont sound great at all.
but I wanted to present a Compressor here
not a full processed recording.

I could have done that too but would that been fair ?

edit:
about the 'clicks', those are sharp/short attacks.
they can be even so fast that the drums become only clicks.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:42 pm

Midiworks wrote:I forgot to say, those drums are UNPROCESSED,
only S l a m m e r was used on the sum.

Yes, they dont sound great at all.
but I wanted to present a Compressor here
not a full processed recording.

I could have done that too but would that been fair ?

Um.. other companies do the same thing, and their demos don't sound bad.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:42 pm

Look, no offense but those clicks/pops/crackles need to go. There is no way that can be considered a professional product otherwise. It's just as simple as that. There is nothing vintage about such noises.. unless it's emulating LP crackles and pops.

The compression action itself sound good but it's nearly impossible to focus on that with all the additional artifacts.

Cheers!
bManic

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:52 pm

Yep, those pops are no good, but I'm not surprised you have them considering most of your audio waveform's registering over 0db..

Turn that shit down and it'll probably sound a little(dare I say much) better. Digital clipping doesn't sell licenses.

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:55 pm

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:56 pm

Midiworks wrote: about the 'clicks', those are sharp/short attacks.
they can be even so fast that the drums become only clicks.

Which is not a good explanation IMHO. There are analogue compressors that have attacks in micro second range and yet they create no clicks/pops. There are plenty of plugins that can emulate that behavior as well.

Sorry to be so negative right off the bat but the bottom line is, you need to fix that mp3 if you plan on using it as a demonstration. It will not do.

Cheers!
bManic

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:57 pm

Sickle wrote:Yep, those pops are no good, but I'm not surprised you have them considering most of your audio waveform's registering over 0db..

Turn that shit down and it'll probably sound a little(dare I say much) better. Digital clipping doesn't sell licenses.

The original file was probably limited to 0dBFS with intersample clipping/overs which resulted in what you are seeing, when encoded and decoded to/from mp3.

Cheers!
bManic

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:59 pm

bmanic wrote:
Sickle wrote:Yep, those pops are no good, but I'm not surprised you have them considering most of your audio waveform's registering over 0db..

Turn that shit down and it'll probably sound a little(dare I say much) better. Digital clipping doesn't sell licenses.

The original file was probably limited to 0dBFS with intersample overs which when created as an mp3 and then decoded results in what you are seeing.

Cheers!
bManic

Well, what's the point of compressing a file like that as a demo then..

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:02 pm

I think he has a REAL problem of communication/marketing.

With this sort of announcement and audio demo, it's going to be a joke, sorry, I mean a flop

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Hope you'll fix this quickly, mister Midiworks.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:14 pm

benlogan wrote:You guys are so critical! I think it sounds cool. The creator advertises the thing as a character compressor. It lends character, and a pretty unique one at that. If I didn't have an 1176LN plug, I might go for one of these.

Yeah, I suppose extraneous noise could be a form of character.

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