Slammer Vintage Valve Compressor

[Sickle]

I have a dual core.

Here's another one:

hurtinv2

This is the waveform before and after compression:



A compressor shouldn't give you those Bizarro World attack spikes. The spikes are independent of the plug's attack settings anyways, so the problem seems to be elsewhere. I'm not trying to bust your balls, man, but this compressor needs some work or it ain't gonna appear on Brittney's next smash album, sorry.

In all seriousness, if you'd like me to help you test, send me a PM. If you think this plug is ready for debut, well, I don't know what to say really..

[brok landers]

The master volume is AFTER the limiter !

Huh?

What'd you do that for?

Why even have a 'master output'? Shouldn't your make-up gain serve as master out already? Or does your master out function as a peak limit controller?

sickle,

without having tried this compressor, it's a common thing to have a masterout knob. it's is actually a great thing to have. that way you can check what the compressor/limiter actually does to the signal without beeing fooled by the loudness increase ...
the makeup is to regain only the _compressors_ output, as well as to drive into the fixed threshold of the limiter(i assume it's fixed at a bit below 0db, at least it would ideally be so) ... by that you often increase the level of the signal compared to the unprocessed signal. with the masteroutput slider you can actually lower the processed signal(compressed and limited) to the rms-level of the input signal.
by doing that you can achieve the same "audible" (not mathematical!) level that the orginal unprocessed signal has. that way you can identify what the processor does to to your orginal audiosignal _exept_ just making it louder, so you're not beeing fooled by the loudness increase.
the loudness increase is a good thing, but a lot of compressors/limiters actually damage the sound by compressing/limiting, which you often don't hear,
as the level increase "masks" the damage ... that's why its a good thing to decrease the level of the processed signal to the level of the orginal sound.
by swithing bypass on/off, you can toggle between the dry and the wet signal and compare without beeing fooled ...
ater that test you can re adjust the masterlevel to reach 0db again ...

this is a common (and imo very necessary) procedere ...

btw, i agree, he has to get rid of the initial clicks ...
from your jpgs i see they're not from the original sound, the compressor somehow accidentially creates them ... very strange ...

[Sickle]

I knew all that other stuff already, brok.

ater that test you can re adjust the masterlevel to reach 0db again ...

Well, good luck with that as the plug's vu meter gives false readings.



Seriously, I use compressors on *everything* I do and this compressor has problems. Try it yourself! Download the beta-I mean-demo and check it out.

[brok landers]

yes, it has hughe problems ... he has to get rid of the clicks, lke i stated ...
my point was on the master output beeing after the limiter ...
and trust me, i do extensiveley work with compressors and limiters since several decades, analog, digital, hw and sw ... i'm a dynamics freak ...
on the metering:
after the check i described above you of course have to re-adjust the master output again ... then the vu meter gives you the correct values ...

btw, if this compressor has reduction vu's, they should be after the limiter, but before the master out slider ... otherwise the reduction-metering indeed would make no sense at all ...

[bduffy]

Giving this a try now...and I gotta say, I'm not hearing the magic right now. For something called "Slammer", it doesn't sound very good at high compression settings; just kinda smooshes the sound into poppy little transients. This sounds like a very standard software compressor to me with a nice interface.

EDIT: I withdraw my comment about the dials; I think it's because there are no data labels that I got confused. And I have a head cold.

No offense man, I'm just not hearing anything "valve", vintage or special here. At all.

[jens]

Oh, and speaking of interface: the dials don't make sense. To increase the threshold, you have to turn it counter-clockwise; to increase ratio, you turn it clockwise. You might want to pick one direction and stick with it? Just a thought.

Huh? Most compressors have it exactly the same way as Slammer...

[jens]

oh, and b.t.w.: I don't find it half bad - I'm kind of wondering whether you folks tried the same plug as me...


edit: tried it now on something different than drums and the introduced weird distortion is indeed terrible... - worth yet another:

[djsubject]

Please download the DEMO here:

New site unfinished but open now too


Get the S l a m m e r DEMO now !

Sampling rates of up to 192 kHz
Ultra efficient processing
Extreamly fast attacks
DualCore compatible
Minimal CPU usage
(P4 2ghz ca.3%)
Zero latency

is it me or is the link missing?

Subz

[jens]

Midiworks posted the link later in the thread but didn't update his op - also the link is really odd...

Try this:

http://hotsearch.us/downloads/Soundspec ... 20Demo.zip

[djsubject]

i was just about to say i found it on page 7


but you have the clickeble link from page 8

thanks

Subz

[bduffy]

Oh, and speaking of interface: the dials don't make sense. To increase the threshold, you have to turn it counter-clockwise; to increase ratio, you turn it clockwise. You might want to pick one direction and stick with it? Just a thought.

Huh? Most compressors have it exactly the same way as Slammer...

Ah, Jens...my Great Corrector...yes, you're right: maybe it's because there are no numbers at all that I find it confusing, or because they're right next to each other? My bad.

I still think this thing sounds like shit, though. I tried it on drums, usually my first and primary concern.

[bmanic]

This compressor needs some pretty serious debugging.. it's literally all over the place!

- bManic

[Midiworks]

Sorry the net was unusable, than I went to bed.

Ok, I hear you, the clicks will go
but it will reduce sound possibility's.
While its easy to simply set thresh to around 9 o'clock,
increase or decrease attack/release and the clicks are gone.

I agree that the VU needs to be checked.

Its a different kind of beast,
and needs a little time to get used to
and to tame it.


Anyway, I will remove the clicking.
Its too 'unusual' I guess...


I will post a new version very soon.

Thanks and sorry for any trouble.

[Sickle]

Anyway, I will remove the clicking.
Its too 'unusual' I guess...

Gee, ya think?

[shogger]

wrong

No. Read more carefully: I wrote: ... when I looked at it last time.

Shogger