KVR Audio

Epiphany · Post by **Epiphany** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:43 pm

Agreed, its fairly "unusual" for a downward compressor to increase dynamic range 3 fold.

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:31 pm

There is no link for the demo, that sucks...

And the Soundspectral website has NOT been updated

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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:33 pm

just a suggestion...we all know about the amp sim thread, we've all had a little fun with it (okay a lot). I have to be honest and say I was a little reluctant to download Rene's compressor because of that thread (read that right please, not because of just Rene's actions though that is part of it). This compressor seems to have some issues, I hope that KvR will allow Rene to make or break himself on this. We all deserve a second chance and this should be his.

One of the questions stemming from the other thread was how would he react to bugs and issues. Now is his chance to show us, let's give him that chance...I think it is best for all. I also think when discussing inertia that we should keep our comments on that comp in the thread that was started for it.

I'm not gonna blow smoke up anyone's britches, Rene seriously hurt is reputation on the amp sim. But now he has a chance to right the ship and I think we should give him that shot.

*disclaimer: This is just my opinion and if KvR doesn't agree I understand, also I only stand by my comment for now...my opinion could change in the blink of an eye. It wont take much for me turn on this, the ball is in his court now and what he does is up to him.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:39 pm

shamann wrote: Man, I tried your compressor, but it didn't create all sorts of nasty, unpleasant clicks all over my audio. I think it must be broken.

After 19 minutes that you had the demo it was already 'all done' for you.

'sound remarkably plippyclicky, no matter what setting I use (if set everything to barely use the compressor, it is at least milder, if still present).'

My fault that the manual is not ready yet, sorry.

If people would have tried to understand its functions(not that easy),
or would had ask they might came up with something like:
http://hotsearch.us//downloads/vs_Slammer_vs.wav
5.45mb

http://hotsearch.us//downloads/vs_Slammer_vs.mp3
760kb

One of the 2 processed drums is S l a m m e r the other a highly regarded
expensive plug-in.

Still, as I said,
I will remove the clicking for the next version.

There is no link for the demo, that sucks...

And the Soundspectral website has NOT been updated

Sorry, my net was too bad.
I fix that when possible again.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:44 pm

[edit] Righty, I've split off most of the Inerthia posts into this thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=204415

I left the first posts on Inerthia, the ones that were in the early bits comparing various GUIs. If I missed any that ought to have been split off, or moved any posts that ought not to have been split, sorry -- post again and bill me for your time. I'll send the bills to those million ducks we've been hearing about lately.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:51 pm

thanx Meffy

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:54 pm

Sure thing. If Nick Nolte likes it, it's worth a little effort.

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:58 pm

Hink wrote:thanx Meffy

Don't act like there was some evil force to derail Rene's plugin; there was no other thread until a little while ago.

As far as a second chance, this is the worst compressor I've ever loaded into a host, bar none. Rene's suggesting to persons like myself and shamann that we're somehow unable to figure out his plug's architcture bodes ill for 'how would he react to bugs and issues'..

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:58 pm

Midiworks wrote: If people would have tried to understand its functions(not that easy),
or would had ask they might came up with something like:
http://hotsearch.us//downloads/vs_Slammer_vs.wav
5.45mb

http://hotsearch.us//downloads/vs_Slammer_vs.mp3
760kb

One of the 2 processed drums is S l a m m e r the other a highly regarded
expensive plug-in.

mmmh.
I don't want to sound rude, and i am no compressor expert, but, to my ears, none of those 2 demos are "amazing" or "mindblowing" :
- I think the first one is a bit too "flattened", and with a tad too much bass (it is rzther ok on this example, but i fear it gets a lot muddy if you use several instances, or if you have a bass track playing together, etc).
- The second one definitively has sharper transients and deals better with the bass, but some clicking is audible.
- I think in these 2 examples the psychoacoustic factor which could make the listener say "wow", is "increase the input volume and limit the output", so "louder = seems better", which is not really a proper argument to judge a comp quality...
My 2 or 3 cents.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:01 pm

Sickle wrote:As far as a second chance, this is the worst compressor I've ever loaded into a host, bar none. Rene's suggesting to persons like myself and shamann that we're somehow unable to figure out his plug's architecture bodes ill for 'how would he react to bugs and issues'..

That was my point in making the joke earlier, too. I'm not sure why I'd need a manual for a plugin with only nine parameters. It really doesn't take long to run through a significant number of configurations in order to understand it.

farlukar · Post by **farlukar** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:04 pm

Midiworks wrote:
shamann wrote: Man, I tried your compressor, but it didn't create all sorts of nasty, unpleasant clicks all over my audio. I think it must be broken.
After 19 minutes that you had the demo it was already 'all done' for you.

Seriously - if the effects are intended, don't call it a compressor but "transient enhancer" or whatever.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:04 pm

There's been no suggestion that there was any evil thread-derailing conspiracy. :-} Just trying to keep things at least semi-organized. I can't merge threads or move posts from one to another. Splitting is the only tool I have for manipulating threads at the post level. Not perfect but at least the Inerthia posts aren't buried in this thread now.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:07 pm

Sickle wrote:
Hink wrote:thanx Meffy
Don't act like there was some evil force to derail Rene's plugin; there was no other thread until a little while ago.

I never suggested any such thing

As far as a second chance, this is the worst compressor I've ever loaded into a host, bar none. Rene's suggesting to persons like myself and shamann that we're somehow unable to figure out his plug's architcture bodes ill for 'how would he react to bugs and issues'..

I haven't tried it yet and tbh I might not. Like I said when he first posted this, I really do not need any more compressors. Samplitude has that all covered quite well including multiband (AA does too imo). My suggestion for a second chance is about his level of commitment and how he listens to suggestions. If this comp sux it sux, but I want to know how he reacts to it...just in case the amp sim comes out, he's breaking new ground here for him.

KleVeR · Post by **KleVeR** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:20 pm

bmanic wrote:
KleVeR wrote:I don't get it.. why keep people saying that slammer compressor looks good??

The designer went for photo-realism and got it all wrong lol
Perhaps you are mistaken? We were talking about this one.. not the compressor of this thread.

Photorealism indeed and I think he got it just right.

Cheers!
bManic

No no, I know you meant that Inerthia and it sure does look nice. I didn't post towards what you had said

I meant all the comments on the "beautiful" looks of that Slammer comp..

Cheers
K

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:57 pm

sinkmusic wrote:mmmh.
I don't want to sound rude, and i am no compressor expert, but, to my ears, none of those 2 demos are "amazing" or "mindblowing"

I see nothing rude in being honest. It's up to the dev, not the customer, to provide the best demos and prove the value of the software. When the demos aren't good, the plug is unlikely to be better, IMO.

Slammer Vintage Valve Compressor