The first person to buy Ocean Way Drums and have it delivered to them (so not counting pre-orders on esoundz who haven't had delivery yet and by the way it is going out on Monday for you all) but the first person is get this: Ringo Starr!!!!! I am going to meet him right now in fact. How awesome is that? He bought it too. No comps because Ocean Way and Allen know practically everyone in the industry so they all have to purchase it. But everyone is getting it in LA right now. It's being used on records immediately. I can't say which yet but some pretty big ones!
Gotta go. I'll take pictures.
Cheers
Squids
The first person to buy Ocean Way Drums
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
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- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
Wow! 
Let us know when you get the pictures up.
Let us know when you get the pictures up.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 3 Jul, 2005 from The Realm of Possibilities
OK, I've said it before and I'll say it again...you live da life my man....plus it has to be a really good validation for your ideas when stuff like this happens.Squids wrote:The first person to buy Ocean Way Drums and have it delivered to them (so not counting pre-orders on esoundz who haven't had delivery yet and by the way it is going out on Monday for you all) but the first person is get this: Ringo Starr!!!!! I am going to meet him right now in fact. How awesome is that? He bought it too. No comps because Ocean Way and Allen know practically everyone in the industry so they all have to purchase it. But everyone is getting it in LA right now. It's being used on records immediately. I can't say which yet but some pretty big ones!
Gotta go. I'll take pictures.
Cheers
Squids
So, where's my SampleTron dude?
Betcha Tom Waits and Joni Mitchell are wondering too.... 
Play what you feel and feel what you play.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Bruce Sugar his engineer gets that referral. Nice guy too. I might work with him on some things. It was cool! I did take a few pics but on my iphone because they wouldn't allow regular cameras in there. He played a short set at House of Blues for his new album "Liverpool 8". I was backstage but I was so busy over at Ocean Way that when I got there I just missed him. But actually his studio is just a few minutes away from The Farm where Genesis record so I might be able to visit next time I am there. We have plans to record with Genesis' producer Nick Davis doing drum samples in the "stone room" where they got that BIG drum sound with Phil Collins. It should happen some time this year.
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Wait a second...did I read that right? 
You had something better to do than meet Ringo Starr?
Why, I oughta...
C'mon Squids, get with the program. What's the point of us living vicariously through you if you're just going to go and screw it up? Hmmmm?
You had something better to do than meet Ringo Starr?
Why, I oughta...
C'mon Squids, get with the program. What's the point of us living vicariously through you if you're just going to go and screw it up? Hmmmm?
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- KVRer
- 27 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Hi all,
Just wondering if there are plans to post up some more demos. This lib is relatively extremely expensive and I don't really have much to go on besides the "Ocean Way" reputation. I listened to the the two demos on the preorder page. Are these samples processed in anyway in those songs? Are they the raw samples? Doesn't sound like it from hearing those few demo sounds in the tutorial video.
thanks!
Just wondering if there are plans to post up some more demos. This lib is relatively extremely expensive and I don't really have much to go on besides the "Ocean Way" reputation. I listened to the the two demos on the preorder page. Are these samples processed in anyway in those songs? Are they the raw samples? Doesn't sound like it from hearing those few demo sounds in the tutorial video.
thanks!
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
If I got there early I could have met him but I didn't know that until after. I thought I would meet him after the show but he had to go to Larry King straight after. Anyway, I was with his engineer Bruce Sugar who is setting up Ringo's Ocean Way Drums right now. Kind of cool that he was the first one to have it.
Regarding demos, there is a new one that is a collage of variety that we'll be posting on Monday. The current demos are not processed apart from the music. The drums have natural ambience from the room of Studio B which is one of the reasons people are loving it. Natural room ambience like that is rare. It's a great room. That's why so many people love to record in it.
I know it seems expensive relatively speaking but you really do get a lot for your money. There are 19 kits and each one has snare on or snare off for the kick and toms. It's 40 Gb for the Gold. Not to be overlooked are the presets. It's one thing for something to come with a bunch of presets made by SR in our office like we normally do. But THESE presets were not made by us! They were made by THEM! Allen Sides and Steven Miller. Two engineers who have worked on more than 1,000 albums collectively with probably around 100 of them going Gold or Platinum. Those are the guys you want putting in their "mix presets" done AT Ocean Way with Allen's custom $65,000 speakers. Now, to do such a thing is infinitely more expensive than just us making cool mix presets of our own. But we spared no expense to get this thing right because... well because we could frankly. The fact that these guys were willing to take time out of their schedules engineering Mary J. Blidge, Dave Matthews Band, Faith Hill and whatever else they are working on right now to do "mix presets" for a plug-in not to mention taking up studio time at Ocean Way when people like Eric Clapton or Radiohead are waiting to book the next available slot... it was too good to pass up!
It was risky to go to those lengths and expense when it could just be perceived as "just another drum product" but more expensive. We could have cut corners on that part but we didn't. The end result is better for it though.
From what I am seeing it looks like most of the pros are getting it without even questioning it because they know what to expect and they are hearing good things from those who have seen it at NAMM and AES. As it gets out there I think the word of mouth and trust in the reputation of Ocean Way will be enough for a lot of musicians to justify the expense. It really isn't that much relative to what it would cost to get a great drum sound like that in a studio. Just the mic rentals alone would cost you a fortune. Trust me I just rented a bunch for the Ken Scott sessions. The idea is that WE spend a fortune to get great drum sounds and painstakingly edit them so you guys can all have those captured drum sounds for a relatively affordable price! One day at Ocean Way with the gear rentals and everything would cost you a lot more than this. That's not even counting the cost of the engineer. What you're paying for is the SOUND these guys get and the way it performs on the keyboard and V-Drums. Unique to itself, unlike anything else... even if there are other products out there that are very nice and maybe less. They don't have THIS sound though. This fidelity. Allen knows what he's doing with those mics.
Regarding demos, there is a new one that is a collage of variety that we'll be posting on Monday. The current demos are not processed apart from the music. The drums have natural ambience from the room of Studio B which is one of the reasons people are loving it. Natural room ambience like that is rare. It's a great room. That's why so many people love to record in it.
I know it seems expensive relatively speaking but you really do get a lot for your money. There are 19 kits and each one has snare on or snare off for the kick and toms. It's 40 Gb for the Gold. Not to be overlooked are the presets. It's one thing for something to come with a bunch of presets made by SR in our office like we normally do. But THESE presets were not made by us! They were made by THEM! Allen Sides and Steven Miller. Two engineers who have worked on more than 1,000 albums collectively with probably around 100 of them going Gold or Platinum. Those are the guys you want putting in their "mix presets" done AT Ocean Way with Allen's custom $65,000 speakers. Now, to do such a thing is infinitely more expensive than just us making cool mix presets of our own. But we spared no expense to get this thing right because... well because we could frankly. The fact that these guys were willing to take time out of their schedules engineering Mary J. Blidge, Dave Matthews Band, Faith Hill and whatever else they are working on right now to do "mix presets" for a plug-in not to mention taking up studio time at Ocean Way when people like Eric Clapton or Radiohead are waiting to book the next available slot... it was too good to pass up!
It was risky to go to those lengths and expense when it could just be perceived as "just another drum product" but more expensive. We could have cut corners on that part but we didn't. The end result is better for it though.
From what I am seeing it looks like most of the pros are getting it without even questioning it because they know what to expect and they are hearing good things from those who have seen it at NAMM and AES. As it gets out there I think the word of mouth and trust in the reputation of Ocean Way will be enough for a lot of musicians to justify the expense. It really isn't that much relative to what it would cost to get a great drum sound like that in a studio. Just the mic rentals alone would cost you a fortune. Trust me I just rented a bunch for the Ken Scott sessions. The idea is that WE spend a fortune to get great drum sounds and painstakingly edit them so you guys can all have those captured drum sounds for a relatively affordable price! One day at Ocean Way with the gear rentals and everything would cost you a lot more than this. That's not even counting the cost of the engineer. What you're paying for is the SOUND these guys get and the way it performs on the keyboard and V-Drums. Unique to itself, unlike anything else... even if there are other products out there that are very nice and maybe less. They don't have THIS sound though. This fidelity. Allen knows what he's doing with those mics.
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Is it just me, or do those snare fills on the "Rock" demo simply not sound very convincing?
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- KVRer
- 27 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Cool Squids.
Just to be clear, there is no eq, outboard hardware, compressors, reverb applied to the raw drum samples in the context of that mix?
Overall the drums have a nice sound in those mixes but I am still skeptical they haven't been sweetened. I'd like to hear just the drums in isolation straight out of Kontakt if you do more demos.
thanks
Just to be clear, there is no eq, outboard hardware, compressors, reverb applied to the raw drum samples in the context of that mix?
Overall the drums have a nice sound in those mixes but I am still skeptical they haven't been sweetened. I'd like to hear just the drums in isolation straight out of Kontakt if you do more demos.
thanks
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Yeah no Chinas or splashes. Allen and Steve have plans for this and some esoteric drums and percussion. This was more standard stuff they use on records.Animus wrote:And did I hear that right? No China cymbals? That's kind of an essential cymbal imo but I guess could be worked around. Wouldn't care about spocks as much.
There are plenty of Chinas in Danny Gottlieb's Cymbal Library coming up though.
Regarding the snare fills, they sound fine to me. There is only one fill that sounds a little repeated to me but that is the way it was programmed (I didn't do that one) because there are more articulations per snare than any other product on the market. So I could have fixed that if I was doing it. Anyway, it sounds freakin' incredible. Please watch the video on www.oceanwaydrums.com that I did which will really tell you what it is capable of. You can do 100% convincing drum tracks with this more than any other drum product. It all depends on how you learn to program though. You still have to be able to PLAY to get the results. Watch my I-Map video and you'll see what can be done.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
I am not 100% sure because I didn't do the demos. Allen and Steve did so I will ask. It is however how it sounds out of the box. The sound is achieved with incredible miking and a phenominal sounding room. You have three room options per drum with the first being unprocessed and the other two having subtle compression for a little THWAK. But there's no extra reverb on any of this. It's the room you get in the product.Animus wrote:Cool Squids.
Just to be clear, there is no eq, outboard hardware, compressors, reverb applied to the raw drum samples in the context of that mix?
Overall the drums have a nice sound in those mixes but I am still skeptical they haven't been sweetened. I'd like to hear just the drums in isolation straight out of Kontakt if you do more demos.
thanks
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