I'm in the mood to completely mangle my sounds. I'm looking for something like the Kaoss Pad that will let me decimate, loop, and otherwise mangle my sounds in a software environment. I found something called Andromeda but it doesn't seem to be compatible with my environment.
Other things that I'm looking for a great real-time controls. I want to manipulate a live sound and record the results. I want to be able to "play with it" rather than programming. Maybe I should be looking for a DJ program to use outside of my sequencer?
I'm wide open to suggestions. Features and usability are more of a concern than price.
DJ Effects VSTs?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 38 posts since 24 Jan, 2008
I just checked out Tracktor and Deckadance's websites. Are either of these going to be what I'm looking for?
Edit: Let me clarify that I don't care about crossfading tracks or anything like that. All I care about it glitching and decimating my tracks in a live environment.
Edit: Let me clarify that I don't care about crossfading tracks or anything like that. All I care about it glitching and decimating my tracks in a live environment.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 38 posts since 24 Jan, 2008
Okay, this is the last time I reply to myself, I promise 
I'm looking at Ableton Live right now and it looks to be pretty close to what I'm looking for. Am I right?
I'm looking at Ableton Live right now and it looks to be pretty close to what I'm looking for. Am I right?
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 19 Aug, 2004 from Toronto
Try the Metasurface in AudioMulch.
The colourful palette in this pic:
http://www.audiomulch.com/static/screenshot2.htm
You can record/capture your gestures as envelopes in the sequencer, or audio.
Somewhere I have a list of VST plugins that work well with it,
and I'll post it if I find it.
Still, AudioMulch has some great built in effects.
The colourful palette in this pic:
http://www.audiomulch.com/static/screenshot2.htm
You can record/capture your gestures as envelopes in the sequencer, or audio.
Somewhere I have a list of VST plugins that work well with it,
and I'll post it if I find it.
Still, AudioMulch has some great built in effects.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 38 posts since 24 Jan, 2008
Ah, Asteroid is the name of the program that I tried. Not Andromeda. Yeah, I couldn't get it to do anything in my sequencer at all. It was disappointing too because I love the Kaoss Pad and would love to have a software equivalent. I'm playing with the Ableton demo right now and it looks promising. The workflow is vastly different from anything I'm used to. I'll take a look at Audiomulch as well. Thanks for the replies so far.
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
howdy divaster!
all these for various stutter, reverse, etc dj fx
memory
phutboy slim
mincer
disorder
daft funk...though the Klanglabs' site appears to be offline currently...
Here's a relatively new one and I dig it a bunch
:
UTFX from AZ Audio
UTFX has a nice decimation section
if ya need to get even deeper into realtime fx application:
Artillery2
(a wee bit pricey
.., but very powerful...they are running a Christmas special still...)
a year ago, I would have heartily recommended Lucifer II, but for the time being, that one is currently not available. There are hopes that will change in the not too distant future.
INCREDIBLY powerful tool for beat mangling, fx application, etc.
all these I've suggested are moreless midi driven fx (ie- they have to have a midi signal run to them in order to take full advantage of their being able to change settings in realtime.)
While only UTFX is the only one of these I can think of that has a bitcrush/decimation option, I'm sure I've not thought of all the realtime tools...
there are DOZENS of nice bitcrushers that could be used on an fx send that you could bring up in realtime (dj style...):
elite reducer, lofi, Sonalksis TBK2(pricey...), and jeroen breebaart's time machine(but that site appears to be down as well
)
and of course (as thecontrolcentre mentions), Ableton Live is killlla for realtime manglation
... and yes- the workflow ain't like Cubase, Sonar or any of the others. However, once you get to a certain point... it becomes completely transparent, ya don't have to even think about things anymore and you can nail stuff down as quick as you can think of it. I've never been able to say that about any other DAW.
all these for various stutter, reverse, etc dj fx
memory
phutboy slim
mincer
disorder
daft funk...though the Klanglabs' site appears to be offline currently...
Here's a relatively new one and I dig it a bunch
:UTFX from AZ Audio
UTFX has a nice decimation section
if ya need to get even deeper into realtime fx application:
Artillery2
(a wee bit pricey
.., but very powerful...they are running a Christmas special still...)a year ago, I would have heartily recommended Lucifer II, but for the time being, that one is currently not available. There are hopes that will change in the not too distant future.
INCREDIBLY powerful tool for beat mangling, fx application, etc.
all these I've suggested are moreless midi driven fx (ie- they have to have a midi signal run to them in order to take full advantage of their being able to change settings in realtime.)
While only UTFX is the only one of these I can think of that has a bitcrush/decimation option, I'm sure I've not thought of all the realtime tools...
there are DOZENS of nice bitcrushers that could be used on an fx send that you could bring up in realtime (dj style...):
elite reducer, lofi, Sonalksis TBK2(pricey...), and jeroen breebaart's time machine(but that site appears to be down as well
)and of course (as thecontrolcentre mentions), Ableton Live is killlla for realtime manglation
... and yes- the workflow ain't like Cubase, Sonar or any of the others. However, once you get to a certain point... it becomes completely transparent, ya don't have to even think about things anymore and you can nail stuff down as quick as you can think of it. I've never been able to say that about any other DAW.
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- KVRAF
- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
Asteriod is a little tricky in that it needs midi input as well:divsaster wrote:Ah, Asteroid is the name of the program that I tried. Not Andromeda. Yeah, I couldn't get it to do anything in my sequencer at all. It was disappointing too because I love the Kaoss Pad and would love to have a software equivalent. I'm playing with the Ableton demo right now and it looks promising. The workflow is vastly different from anything I'm used to. I'll take a look at Audiomulch as well. Thanks for the replies so far.
once you put it in the audio path, you need to run midi to the plug. Once you do that, you will find that cc1 (your mod wheel on your keyboard controller, in most cases) will control the wet/dry mix level of the effect.
c1 (midi note) turns on FX1, c#1 =FX2, d1=FX3,d#1=FX4, and e1=FX5 etc.
all other midi notes act as a gate for the effect... also, when you trigger the effect, you can scoot the "donut" around the "kaos" pad for effect...
so you are really working the mod wheel, gating various midi notes and working the pad before you begin to see the real results and power from Asteroid (which IS an excellent tool that I neglected to mention... thanks, thecontrolcentre!)
hopefully, once Dennis sets up some docs for Asteroid more folks will start to pick it up
for now, maybe this vid from the Prodyon site will help ya some.allofdrab is certainly right about audiomulch. While I havent' worked with it in years, even back then it was the bomb. It can only be better now
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- KVRian
- 1298 posts since 11 Jun, 2004 from dublin
live might be a bit overkill if you're looking for a KP replacement. check out truc:
http://www.delamancha.co.uk/truc.htm
http://www.delamancha.co.uk/truc.htm
ITM: Inappropriate. Touching. Music.
electronic/hip hop
http://jazzyspoon.com/MELODAY.htm
http://www.myspace.com/mldy
electronic/hip hop
http://jazzyspoon.com/MELODAY.htm
http://www.myspace.com/mldy
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- KVRAF
- 2447 posts since 5 Jan, 2006
+1 for Audiomulch + its metasurface
Also give Jungulator a try:
http://www.iamthemightyjungulator.com/j ... 3_1_manual
Also give Jungulator a try:
http://www.iamthemightyjungulator.com/j ... 3_1_manual
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- KVRAF
- 2812 posts since 30 Oct, 2006 from The City that Started House Music
Here's my List of VST DJ Plugs:
BackMan Reverser VST
Backwards Machine VST
BetaBugs Plugs VST
BI-Filter VST
Classic Auto-Filter VST
ColdCutter VST
CopyShop VST
DaStutter VST
DiVerse SLowEr VST
DJT Scratcher VST
DyScratch VSTi
EQ-KiLLer VST
Izotope Vinyl VST
KerrStinn VSTi
LoopScratch VST
Milli Vinylli VST
Phutboy Slim VST
Reversinator VST
ScratchDown VST
Shredder VST
Snippet2 VST
Sxratch Pad VST
Sxratch2 VST
TapeStop VST
TB Wobbler VST
TempoSyncReverser VST
Transformer VST
TurntablistPro VSTi
VinylBoy VST
BackMan Reverser VST
Backwards Machine VST
BetaBugs Plugs VST
BI-Filter VST
Classic Auto-Filter VST
ColdCutter VST
CopyShop VST
DaStutter VST
DiVerse SLowEr VST
DJT Scratcher VST
DyScratch VSTi
EQ-KiLLer VST
Izotope Vinyl VST
KerrStinn VSTi
LoopScratch VST
Milli Vinylli VST
Phutboy Slim VST
Reversinator VST
ScratchDown VST
Shredder VST
Snippet2 VST
Sxratch Pad VST
Sxratch2 VST
TapeStop VST
TB Wobbler VST
TempoSyncReverser VST
Transformer VST
TurntablistPro VSTi
VinylBoy VST
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- KVRian
- 897 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Rome, Italy
Hey what about Audiodamage Dr.Device!
"For some reason everyone on this site hates Roger Nichols, loves Zebra, doesn't need a Virus (unless it's TI), uses Reaper, and thinks the Kaoss pad is cool: remember these rules and you'll be popular." (blackboyrockinit)