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Frank123 · Post by **Frank123** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:29 am

markoos wrote: Sequentix P3...
Thought I would post this in case there are any features which you might find interesting, Frank123...

I had some time to read thru the features of the P3. This thing is a mighty machine and and I'm curious what Colin Fraser will put in the next level machine.

Where is the Sequentix user group? I can't find the forum,
does anybody have a link for me?

amiga909 · Post by **amiga909** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:52 am

Frank123 wrote:[So far my list of mainly step-oriented machines:

Analogue Solutions Oberkorn MK2
Analogue Solutions Oberkorn MK3
Analogue Solutions SQ-8
Anyware Inseqt
Arp1601
Cyclodon
Doepfer A-155
Doepfer MAQ16-3
Doepfer Regelwerk
Elrad
Future Retro Mobius
Geiss MatriSequencer 250
Genoqs Octopus
InfectionMusic Zeit
Korg SQ10
Latronic Norton
Manikin Schrittmacher
mfb-601
mfb-602
mfb-step64
Midibox SEQ-V3
Milton21
ModCan 54b
Moscovitz
Outerspace 16
Roland System 104
Roland System 717
SAM-16
SND SAM16
SQ-16
Sequentix P3
Serge TKB
SignalArts MAPS
Spectral Audio Cyclus3
SuperMoe
Synrise 8
Synthanorma
synthesizers.com
TE-1
TechnoToys Mikado

wow! this is the most complete list i've ever seen. thankx!
edit: tenori-on can be counted as well..

my wish for a step sequencer:
give me a 256' monome for < ~600$ and a framework to program my own sequencer.

crufty · Post by **crufty** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:42 pm

I haven't read all pages, BUT...

I think what would be ideal is a hw step sequencer interface to a software step sequencer.

Frank123 · Post by **Frank123** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:47 am

crufty wrote:I haven't read all pages, BUT...
I think what would be ideal is a hw step sequencer interface to a software step sequencer.

Mmmh?

Could you please explain a bit more?

Frank123 · Post by **Frank123** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:01 pm

The prototype software will be available for serious testers, see this thread:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 83#2937283

Ifrigginghateregistering · Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:45 pm

crufty wrote:I haven't read all pages, BUT...

I think what would be ideal is a hw step sequencer interface to a software step sequencer.

I agree! There are midi interfaces for using with soft synths (M-Audio, various other brands), there are midi interfaces for using with drum machines (Trigger Finger, padKONTROL).

So why can't there be midi interfaces for using with software step sequencers?

All you would need would be a shell with a bunch of buttons. A 16-step pattern, a small octave thingie, buttons for pattern storage, a tempo control etc. Everything would be done in software (Fruityloops, Ableton, whatever).

I think it's a great idea--and there would be a market for it. Everybody knows that step sequencers are more fun when you have direct, physical control to what's going on.

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:05 pm

i'd like a tabletop step sequencer that consisted of a few rows of 16 knobs and one row of 16 X0X style buttons. dedicated knob for swing (adjustable for each track individually), pattern based, ability to change patterns on the fly, and the ability to manipulate or change arrangements on the fly (similar to Live but just with MIDI). four midi outs. oh, and of course track mutes, scene selections, and rock solid timing a la MPC-3000.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:41 am

Ifrigginghateregistering wrote: So why can't there be midi interfaces for using with software step sequencers?

All you would need would be a shell with a bunch of buttons. A 16-step pattern, a small octave thingie, buttons for pattern storage, a tempo control etc. Everything would be done in software (Fruityloops, Ableton, whatever).

I think it's a great idea--and there would be a market for it. Everybody knows that step sequencers are more fun when you have direct, physical control to what's going on.

Yes, if only such a thing existed...

Ifrigginghateregistering · Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:32 pm

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deastman wrote:Yes, if only such a thing (http://monome.org/) existed...

Well, that would do the job. But it would require learning a bunch of max/msp etc. which keeps focus away from the music and back on the hardware/programming.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:25 am

Ifrigginghateregistering wrote:Well, that would do the job. But it would require learning a bunch of max/msp etc. which keeps focus away from the music and back on the hardware/programming.

I don't own one (too rich for my blood!) but I'm pretty confident someone has already written a basic step sequencer patch for it... load it up and away you go!

Frank123 · Post by **Frank123** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:26 pm

dirty oscillators wrote:i'd like a tabletop step sequencer that consisted of a few rows of 16 knobs and one row of 16 X0X style buttons. ...

Monome designs are great for drum steppers, because in contrast to the single 808 running light, you see more tracks at the same time. A combination of a button grid with a few encoder rows for midi notenumber, velocity and gate should be cool.

What do you people think about a 16 step design with 8 rows to trigger drums and 3 rows for sequencing parameters?
Would that give a decent interface?

travelquarterly · Post by **travelquarterly** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:32 pm

Hi Frank,
That sounds great but will it allow you to still hit your 300 euros price point?
Glad to hear this is still in the works.

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:33 pm

I have a device I call the MidiGate. Basically you set it to respond to 16 midi notes and every time you you press one of those notes you get a high output. You can then use this high to trigger a row of CV controls just like a hardware sequencer.

You'd need a midi sequencer to program the sequence but it'll go forwards, backwards, right circle, left circle, split, night rider, skip... ext anyway you want to program the track and it will run in sync with your sequencer. Then use the CV controls to program notes played.

You can stack as many gates as you like in groups of 16 notes. If you've got an old analog drum machine this will supply 16 midi triggers. As an extra, extra you can use the outputs to switch Triacs off and on to control a midi light show for each song in your set.

I'm not selling them again until late September. So this is just a heads up that there is such a device.

Frank123 · Post by **Frank123** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:42 pm

travelquarterly wrote:Hi Frank,
That sounds great but will it allow you to still hit your 300 euros price point?
Glad to hear this is still in the works.

Thank You, yes I'm busy and still testing different versions. There will be one low-price machine for under 300 Euros. Starting with a small product seems to make the most sense.

A nice interface providing a grid with 128 light buttons and 48 encoders and some more controls for additional functions will cost at least 400 Euros extra.

Lets see, the Monome one-twenty-eight with 128 buttons and no rotary encoders costs 800 USD!

Whatever happens, I'm still in the mood to build some nice hardware!
Kind regards,
Frank

the return of the step sequencer