Improvisator

[funkychickendance]

I must admit when I first saw this I thought "Oh no". Everybody is going to be producing complex string arrangements ...

Which is why Darrenn (above) is also on to something here. It's cool as a harmonic calculator, serving up options. It's the transition from interesting sequences to performable music that's the challenge.

Still, this was a helpful comment from Rod...string quartets, eh? Or brass combinations? Or bass-pad-piano-synth...or, well, whatever might sound interesting when treated to rather conventional musical theory...the price didn't change, but the value certainly did.

//fnx

[spitboxer]

Group Buy??

[Armadillo]

Seems like a good tool for banging out some harmonies.
However all these "t", "p", "p7" and whatever else there is bit confusing and not very helpful to me. I'd love to see the buttons or at least the suggestion buttons change to their proper name such as Dm7 and Asus4. Oh, and a English version would be nice but I'm sure that's in the works.
What the heck is (D)7dP and s56 , both with 3 under them.

Group buy would indeed be great. I'd be in for certain then.

[jedilaw]

Regarding whether this could serve as a crutch for ignorant/un-talented musicians, I hardly think so. All of the harmonic info in the world won't give someone a set of ears or the ability to translate what they hear in their head into an actual piece of music. Mechanically running through the chord progressions presented by this plugin wouldn't give you music, it would give you a music lesson.

Having a drum sampler won't make you a drummer, having a bass plugin won't make you a bassist (hell no, I've been playing bass for 20 years and no plugin can touch a human player), and having the Improvisator won't make you Mozart.

I think it's a great idea, perhaps in need of further development/refinement.

Kudos!

[Alien Leg]

Yeah please add the chord names, which would make it also easier to understand whats happening and to add something manually or by playing after using the improvisator!

[Jafo]

There is an alternative. You can embrace the tools that are developed and use them to produce great music.

Hear here! Nothing wrong with letting the computer do the grunt work now and then. It's also a good way to open up your mind to new possibilities.

[eduardo_b]

Regarding whether this could serve as a crutch for ignorant/un-talented musicians, I hardly think so.

In the end, there really is no substitute for talent, musical skill and a creative mind. Technology can assist but not replace these qualities. That said, some kinds of music are more compatible with some music software. In the right hands, I'm sure Cakewalk's Kinetic, for example, could produce some pretty good stuff. But I've yet to see software that can create classical music without a user having the right stuff.

[funkychickendance]

Seems like a good tool for banging out some harmonies.
However all these "t", "p", "p7" and whatever else there is bit confusing and not very helpful to me. I'd love to see the buttons or at least the suggestion buttons change to their proper name such as Dm7 and Asus4. Oh, and a English version would be nice but I'm sure that's in the works.
What the heck is (D)7dP and s56 , both with 3 under them.

Group buy would indeed be great. I'd be in for certain then.

To be fair to the developer -- which I haven't been, either -- he half-explains this nomenclature in the manual. A longer manual would be cool, along with more explanation, but suffice it to say that he makes a point of the essential meaninglessness of such 'guitar player' names for chords. I'm more thrown off by the German symbolism -- moll for minor, dur for major, and so on.

If you remember that the Tonic is the 'name' note of the scale, the Dominant is the V chord, and the sub-dominant is the IV, you're on the way. But it's still hard to follow.

I agree with you 100% about s56, though. This one -- I think? -- is a six chord with the fifth still present. So, in C: CEGA? The numbers below? Maybe something to do with inversion, i.e. which is the low note.

Needs work, for sure.

//fnx

[spitboxer]

the update is working great .. thanks for the extra midi outs

[funkychickendance]

the update is working great .. thanks for the extra midi outs

Nice idea, along with the other changes. I think I'll be jumping on this one in a week or two, after I get paid. This MIDI choice makes it 100% more useful. Brass combos, sets of string instruments, bass lines beneath, etc.

//fnx

[Robinzz]

Hi everyone,
I actually bought this right when I saw it. Hey we are all using computers for most, why not use them more?

It is a bit of fun, but difficult as well. Nice tool to have overall. I highly recommend it.

[Optomadic]

Robinzz - So how is this working out for you then? I was going to ask how difficult it was but I see you've posted that already. Can you be more specific?

From the audio demos, it sounds like it works mostly classical harmonic precessions? Or am I way off? What about jazzy variations? I mean it does some beautiful switching but I dont want to sound like the Orb anytime soon..

Thanks

[vurt]

and having the Improvisator won't make you Mozart.

thank dog. if this is rhe case i might take a look.

[Optomadic]

and having the Improvisator won't make you Mozart.

...But it will make you The Orb

[ovni]

all the posts I've seen of people successfully working w/ Improvisator in sonar where working with version 7. Does anyone know of any reasons why improvisator should not work on Sonar 5? should it work just as well? Thank You.