the synth still isnt finished and maybe never will be. you need to make your own patches really, there is no real patch collection available.
i'm not sure why it would ever use so much cpu, i'm not able to do that here. save your patch and send it to me, there may be a bug in the oscillator (which is still float code) causing a denormal issue, or something.
xhip isnt designed to "sound like" anything. i do not want to have anything to do with any other synthesizer, xhip is not a "va" or a "model".
upload your patch here: http://xhip.cjb.net/upload
XHip--Please finish your synth!!
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- KVRian
- 505 posts since 27 Feb, 2007
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/public/adxi/
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Ah i thought that you will say something like that after reading whole thread , but its ok,just wanted to help with one sound cause its helpful to recreate very nice pads and strings.
So you wont optimize xhip in any way in the future ? cause i read somewhere in this thread that you planned to do that someday.
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Ah i thought that you will say something like that after reading whole thread , but its ok,just wanted to help with one sound cause its helpful to recreate very nice pads and strings.
So you wont optimize xhip in any way in the future ? cause i read somewhere in this thread that you planned to do that someday.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i do, but there isnt going to be much improvement because things are already as fast as possible. the only want to make it faster is to decrease the quality of the synth, which i will not do. there are other more complicated things i can do to slightly improve the speed.
the problem with your patch is probably a bug. upload the patch (adxi file) at http://xhip.cjb.net/upload
i've fixed the faq and upload listing to remove references to those directories which no longer exist.
the problem with your patch is probably a bug. upload the patch (adxi file) at http://xhip.cjb.net/upload
i've fixed the faq and upload listing to remove references to those directories which no longer exist.
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- KVRian
- 505 posts since 27 Feb, 2007
i uploaded brass which caused 50% on 3 keys and yesterday sometimes i had 60 % with one key with it , also i get clipping sometimes on supersaw which i uploaded , its gone when i turn volume of the channel down , but its on 75 by default and goes to -6db when clipping. Actually it isnt normal clipping it sounds like crackle in the earphones when you touch the jack plug with your finger , sounds like cracking.And its loud,this is how it looks:
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i'm unable to reproduce either your cpu use or wrapping-distortion problems. the wrapping distortion in theory could be triggered by the fact you're using oscillator sync B->A where the osc.B frequency is higher than A. disable oscillator sync in these cases since it does nothing anyway, sync does not apply to the super-saw mode.
the cpu use issue may be related to a lot of automation, try removing some automation or set the parameter filter to fast setting to reduce cpu use here. if your host constantly sends very slightly different parameter values, this will cause xhip to use a lot of cpu. make sure you are not using any automation modulation plugins or similar.
apart from that i cant tell you what would cause such a jump in cpu requirement or wrapping distortion: no other user has reported these problems and i'm unable to reproduce them.
the cpu use issue may be related to a lot of automation, try removing some automation or set the parameter filter to fast setting to reduce cpu use here. if your host constantly sends very slightly different parameter values, this will cause xhip to use a lot of cpu. make sure you are not using any automation modulation plugins or similar.
apart from that i cant tell you what would cause such a jump in cpu requirement or wrapping distortion: no other user has reported these problems and i'm unable to reproduce them.
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- KVRian
- 889 posts since 10 Jul, 2004
hi aciddose, sorry for beating a dead horse but...
your friend admiralquality has introduced a anti-click button to the envelopes ... maybe it just a slope on the attack but if u could add a similar feature to xhip it would be cool. cheers.
your friend admiralquality has introduced a anti-click button to the envelopes ... maybe it just a slope on the attack but if u could add a similar feature to xhip it would be cool. cheers.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i already have, move the "attack", "decay" and "release" sliders to a position where "attack" reads greater than 1.0ms, while "decay" and "release" read more than 5.0ms. these positions should all be the same in terms of the amount of slider movement, should be about 15% -> left.
do you really need a button to do this for you?
what should i call it? "lazy" ?
i could do this, ok, fine. however, i'm not going to be able to release another xhip version until the modular gui stuff is working right.
in order to eliminate 'clicks', you must not add any frequency content above the frequencies present in the signal being modulated.
hz = 1 / time
1 / 1ms = 1000hz.
1 / 5ms = 200hz.
releases tend to be 5x more audible because our brains to not expect them. sounds in nature tend to have a fast attack and slow release.
apply this function to whatever time you set the envelope section to and you can calculate the frequency of the impulse inserted into the signal. if this impulse is higher in frequency than the content being modulated you'll have an audible 'click' on your hands.
rules of AM modulation apply here, for further reading see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude_modulation
do you really need a button to do this for you?
what should i call it? "lazy" ?
i could do this, ok, fine. however, i'm not going to be able to release another xhip version until the modular gui stuff is working right.
in order to eliminate 'clicks', you must not add any frequency content above the frequencies present in the signal being modulated.
hz = 1 / time
1 / 1ms = 1000hz.
1 / 5ms = 200hz.
releases tend to be 5x more audible because our brains to not expect them. sounds in nature tend to have a fast attack and slow release.
apply this function to whatever time you set the envelope section to and you can calculate the frequency of the impulse inserted into the signal. if this impulse is higher in frequency than the content being modulated you'll have an audible 'click' on your hands.
rules of AM modulation apply here, for further reading see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude_modulation
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- KVRAF
- 2910 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from dun unda
It'd be handy, provided it doesn't randomize touchy things such as Unison Notecount and amount, or any other potential CPU killer switches.aciddose wrote:do you really need a button to do this for you?
what should i call it? "lazy" ?
i could do this, ok, fine. however, i'm not going to be able to release another xhip version until the modular gui stuff is working right.
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- KVRAF
- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Just dropped by to say a few kind words...
Maaaan.
Maaaaaaaaan.
To elaborate: I was refraining from using and even testing Xhip for a few months, but now, when I'm finally working on my own techno/industrial project I was looking for some really fat sounds... in the wrong places. i won't mention any names, but let's just say that I've demoed about a dozen of commercial offerings, as none of my synths sounded satisfactorily fat [I hate the term...] for this heavy stuff I have in mind, and I wasn't very satisfied either. Until, out of sheer curiosity, I've decided to give your baby a shot [again]. I'm talking about version 0.6.14.9 here. Previous version I used was crashing a lot.
And what a shot it was. Bull's eye, to be precise. Sounds exactly like what I had in mind. Hard frigging raw oldish moogish oberheimish sounds. Just wow!
Since last time i've been playing with it, it sounded even better. Clicks? What clicks? I was complaining about the clicks half a year ago, but changing the attack time couldn't remedy it. Now... the attack on the envelopes can be extremely short for some uses, so if you want to emulate analog synths, just make the attack time bigger and there won't be any clicking.
GUI? It's perfect now, thanks Aciddose, I can change the colours if I want and that's all I need.
Presets? I never use them. Just imagine the sound and make it...
The only thing I'm worried about is stability, though. Especially since I'm working very hard on my first project after *some* years. Last time I've been playing with it, EnergyXT crashed hard when I was changing modulation routings. I'm just hoping it's stability is better now. Not just hoping, actually, praying to god it's stable. And I'm an atheist btw.
Anyway, I'm in ecstasy... off to music making.
Thanks Aciddose. you're genius. and a bit crazy like all geniuses.
Big, big Cheers!
p.s. good luck with your hardware synth. It must be awesome.
Maaaan.
Maaaaaaaaan.
To elaborate: I was refraining from using and even testing Xhip for a few months, but now, when I'm finally working on my own techno/industrial project I was looking for some really fat sounds... in the wrong places. i won't mention any names, but let's just say that I've demoed about a dozen of commercial offerings, as none of my synths sounded satisfactorily fat [I hate the term...] for this heavy stuff I have in mind, and I wasn't very satisfied either. Until, out of sheer curiosity, I've decided to give your baby a shot [again]. I'm talking about version 0.6.14.9 here. Previous version I used was crashing a lot.
And what a shot it was. Bull's eye, to be precise
. Sounds exactly like what I had in mind. Hard frigging raw oldish moogish oberheimish sounds. Just wow!Since last time i've been playing with it, it sounded even better. Clicks? What clicks? I was complaining about the clicks half a year ago, but changing the attack time couldn't remedy it. Now... the attack on the envelopes can be extremely short for some uses, so if you want to emulate analog synths, just make the attack time bigger and there won't be any clicking.
GUI? It's perfect now, thanks Aciddose, I can change the colours if I want and that's all I need.
Presets? I never use them. Just imagine the sound and make it...
The only thing I'm worried about is stability, though. Especially since I'm working very hard on my first project after *some* years. Last time I've been playing with it, EnergyXT crashed hard when I was changing modulation routings. I'm just hoping it's stability is better now. Not just hoping, actually, praying to god it's stable. And I'm an atheist btw.
Anyway, I'm in ecstasy... off to music making.
Thanks Aciddose. you're genius. and a bit crazy like all geniuses
.Big, big Cheers!
p.s. good luck with your hardware synth. It must be awesome.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 6 Aug, 2007 from Everywhere I go, there I am.
What patches? we don't need no stinking patches.osiris wrote:Mucho thanks for the patches--Now I can see what this syn can really do. Methinks you could have a mini (Access)Virus on your hands.
No really, were there patches with the download?Give me faster computers, bigger Hard drives and more money.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
yes.
if you do not want to wait the forty-two years it'll take me to do so, you can assign the random or sample&hold lfo waveform to panning while using unison to get a random effect. you could also add it yourself if you wanted, the source code is available. if you're interested ask me and i'll give you more information.
if you do not want to wait the forty-two years it'll take me to do so, you can assign the random or sample&hold lfo waveform to panning while using unison to get a random effect. you could also add it yourself if you wanted, the source code is available. if you're interested ask me and i'll give you more information.
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- KVRAF
- 5744 posts since 11 Feb, 2005 from Bordeaux France
Sorry for being a moron, but what DL should I take ? I can't load the GUI's with the last version.
Thanks boys and girls
Thanks boys and girls
You can't always get what you waaaant...
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
read what it says on this page: http://xhip.cjb.net/xhip/releases/