How To Treat Hats
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- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
- KVRAF
- 1821 posts since 26 Nov, 2005 from Where silence and chaos meet.
12khz is your friend.
furthermore, try to have your snare not to bright, and what has been said earlier on about tambourines and such is quit helpful.
but yeah, trial and errors...
furthermore, try to have your snare not to bright, and what has been said earlier on about tambourines and such is quit helpful.
but yeah, trial and errors...
It's not what you use, it's how you use it...
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- KVRAF
- 1666 posts since 28 Jun, 2007 from Amazon rain forest
I've read somewhere that "When your track is going well, the hats take care of themselves".
I've found it to be true: when I'm working on something and the hats doesn't fits well, I simply remove them. Then, I keep working further on the song, and leave the hats for the final steps. (well, not soooo final steps, but anyways)
So I add them (since the first moment, I figure out how I want my hats, so I can choose the apropriate samples). Normally, the only thing I do is simply subtract some bass freqs (below 150hz) with EQ, and play around with compression (either an exclusive hat compressor or a entire drum buss compressor or no compression at all)
Doing this, I can program the hats so they can "talk" to the rest of the drums. They play an important role on the rhythm section of a track.
The EQ part can be all your solution. As the guy said above, the 12Khz region is very important. But it's intersting to play EQing your hats with the track going, not solo-ed. So you can hear how it fits in the mix. And take a break every now and them, because the hat sounds can really irritate the ears. Mine, at least.
Note that I'm speaking about House, Trance, and general 4x4 stuff.
I've found it to be true: when I'm working on something and the hats doesn't fits well, I simply remove them. Then, I keep working further on the song, and leave the hats for the final steps. (well, not soooo final steps, but anyways)
So I add them (since the first moment, I figure out how I want my hats, so I can choose the apropriate samples). Normally, the only thing I do is simply subtract some bass freqs (below 150hz) with EQ, and play around with compression (either an exclusive hat compressor or a entire drum buss compressor or no compression at all)
Doing this, I can program the hats so they can "talk" to the rest of the drums. They play an important role on the rhythm section of a track.
The EQ part can be all your solution. As the guy said above, the 12Khz region is very important. But it's intersting to play EQing your hats with the track going, not solo-ed. So you can hear how it fits in the mix. And take a break every now and them, because the hat sounds can really irritate the ears. Mine, at least.
Note that I'm speaking about House, Trance, and general 4x4 stuff.
- KVRian
- 926 posts since 15 Mar, 2004 from Tokyo, Japan
You see, treating hats is a very delicate matter that requires intense study and devotion over a lifetime. Hats (I am assuming that you mean the ones used for percussive purposes and not the ones used for clothing) are very... how shall we say, emotional creatures. It is very important to talk nicely to them, avoid crude language and listen intently when they try to tell you something, however inane it might be. Like women, really.
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- KVRian
- 1211 posts since 7 Aug, 2006 from Geelong, Australia
+1Hovmod wrote:Except you get to whack them with a stick now and then.tranel wrote:Like women, really.
Another Generic Response:
Try using <Voxengo Audio Delay*>.
*insert favourite weirdo delay here.
OK, seriously, I keep finding uses for that plugin and I like to plug it. Thats all this post is; a generic <use this plugin to uberfy your track>.
- KVRAF
- 1871 posts since 16 Jul, 2004 from Deepest Yorkshire
Dune Delay from Atom Splitter is good for this and works well with Distroyr.napalmbob wrote:Another Generic Response:
Try using <Voxengo Audio Delay*>.
*insert favourite weirdo delay here.
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
ClassicChris Walton wrote:Only touch your hat with clean and dry hands. When you put your hat on or take it of or need to adjust it, handle the hat by the front and back of the brim. Otherwise it might lose it's shape and get dirty. Flexing your hat may eventually weaken the body of the crown and brim and make it lose its ability to keep its shape. Never handle your hat by holding the crown.. it will get fingerprint oils on it. Do not pick up your hat/fedora by the pinch... it will may misshape it. In a straw fedora the pinch will crack. In a Felt hat is may split the felt. Do not place hat on its brim.. it may flatten or lose its curve especially when it is wet. Consider using a rain protector. Some hats made of canvas, felt or straw can have applications of Scotchguard to help make the hats waterproof. However... some manufacturers do not recommend this. Some suggest silicone based waterproofing and others do not endorse that. Place your hat upside down on it's crown in a clean area. Short term.. place your hat on a Styrofoam or hat head. You can make a tube or set on covered oatmeal box or coffee can. Do not leave your hat in the car or in the sun as the humidity may cause it to lose shape and the sweatband, cotton, wool or leather, could shrink or distort. Hats of any material may be sensitive to prolonged exposure to direct sunlight causing colors to fade. When traveling it is best to transport your hat in a hat box with a handle to insure protection. Occasionally flip down the sweat band so it can dry and air out. If your sweatband regularly soaks up a lot of sweat or hair oils then make sure you dry it out often. If you must clean the sweatband... be very careful. Try using a toothbrush dipped in a mild soap solution and scrubbing. Rinse and blot very carefully. Do Not Get the hat wet or it will stain.How To Treat Hats
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 18 Oct, 2004
- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
with dignity and respect.
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- KVRian
- 1414 posts since 24 Mar, 2007
mixing hats w/ a shaker or something else seemed to work good. I tried it after reading it here.
I've heard people doubling the hats track and delaying one a few ms. and playing with the panning, never tried that though so i don't know how well that goes.
I always have problems with hats too, thats why i just say f**k em till the end.
oh, I usually add some chorus on a send to the hats. That makes them less abrasive and more shimmery,
I've heard people doubling the hats track and delaying one a few ms. and playing with the panning, never tried that though so i don't know how well that goes.
I always have problems with hats too, thats why i just say f**k em till the end.
oh, I usually add some chorus on a send to the hats. That makes them less abrasive and more shimmery,
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- KVRian
- 1414 posts since 24 Mar, 2007
you say this like your not allowed to wack women with sticks? Odd...Hovmod wrote:Except you get to whack them with a stick now and then.tranel wrote:Like women, really.
'The science of rich men does not elevate all mankind, but only themselves.'
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- KVRAF
- 7788 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
try using a DeEsser.
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- KVRAF
- 5110 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
But the real question is: do you condone whacking hats with women?Hovmod wrote:Yeah, I don't condone whacking women with sticks.
Hats, yes.
edit: not whacking women with hats, whacking hats with sticks.
*whew*

