wineasio XT2 and me: my findings experiements and thoughts

[AllenPOPO]

has anyone tried installing pianoteq or addictive drums with crossover?

Addictive drums work.... not sure about pianoteq. do they have a demo?

[AllenPOPO]

Hello anyone bored enough to read this

No.

Unless this was a rhetorical question.

Still no.

But thanks for asking.

uh-huh....You know you down with the tinfoil linux crew

[eduardo_b]

Hello anyone bored enough to read this

No.

Unless this was a rhetorical question.

Still no.

But thanks for asking.

uh-huh....You know you down with the tinfoil linux crew

I'm totally down with them being down.

[sirven]

HI Allen,

So you are recommending CrossOver Linux ? Is this offering better performance overall ?
With Wine I was not disappointed, but if I can get better ! This is the whole story with computers !

Secondly, when using Jack in combination with Wineasio, I feel
like don't do too much at the same time, to avoid Xruns or clicks in sound. Did you experience anything like that yet ? The wineasio driver sounds great by itself, but I'm sceptic about using a couple of midi tracks over the other.
What do you think ?

[AllenPOPO]

HI Allen,

So you are recommending CrossOver Linux ? Is this offering better performance overall ?
With Wine I was not disappointed, but if I can get better ! This is the whole story with computers !

Secondly, when using Jack in combination with Wineasio, I feel
like don't do too much at the same time, to avoid Xruns or clicks in sound. Did you experience anything like that yet ? The wineasio driver sounds great by itself, but I'm sceptic about using a couple of midi tracks over the other.
What do you think ?

Well back when I wrote this....crossover had a definite advantage. But WINE has an advantage that i didnt see...its constant updating of the wine base. You do not have that advantage with crossover without serious hacking. The beauty of crossover is its ewse of use tools and the ability to archive wine "bottles"...that alone is a serious advantage i havent been able to duplicate in wine yet...but there may be tools for wine that mimic this that i have not found yet!


all those vsts mentioned work on both...if you have trouble with a vst wusing wineasio, run everything in terminal and it may refer to missing "dlls" you may need to put in wines directory

[billstei]

... The beauty of crossover is its ewse of use tools and the ability to archive wine "bottles"...that alone is a serious advantage i havent been able to duplicate in wine yet...but there may be tools for wine that mimic this that i have not found yet!

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "archive" but if it's wine bottles you need take a look at the 5th post in this thread detailing how I do this:

http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=103

Bill

[ret]

Perhaps someone could write me a "wineasio install guide for idiot" but for some reason I just can't get it installed in my linuxmint...

Wine itself works ok, same for XT2 and some vst's I've tested so far. Can't say for latency (without wineasio that is...) as I haven't done any serious recording with it just yet. But it seems like the days completely without Windows is getting closer.

[lowkey]

Hi Ret

Have you updated to the RT kernal?

[billstei]

Partial Idiot's Guide to Compiling/Installing WineASIO in Ubuntu/Debian-like Linuxes:

Disclaimer: I am not a Highly Qualified Expert, but this is how I did it:

Go here:

http://people.jacklab.net/edogawa/files/wineasio/

And get this:

wineasio-0.7.3.tar.bz2

Extract this archive using your favorite archive program or from a console you can use:

tar xjf wineasio-0.7.3.tar.bz2

This creates a directory called wineasio-0.7.3 , so using a terminal, go there:

cd wineasio-0.7.3

You need to get the Steinberg ASIO SDK package, and that means going to their website and agreeing to stuff you may not agree with. Unzip the package (I used ver 2.2) and get the asio.h file located in ASIOSDK2/common folder
and put a copy of asio.h in the wineasio-0.7.3 folder. Now we compile it by typing:

make

You could now use "make install" but I like as much of my stuff to be apt-friendly and play nice in Ubuntu/Debain world, so I use a program called checkinstall (which sometimes doesn't work, but it does for this simple install) so type:

checkinstall --install=no

It will ask:

Should I create a default set of package docs? [y]:

Type y and then give the deb package a name like:

WineASIO - Ver 0.7.3

then hit return a couple of times and review the doc items, then Enter again, and checkinstall will build the deb. When it finishes you could use GDebi to install it, or just do (as it explains):

sudo dpkg -i wineasio_0.7.3-1_i386.deb

The only thing this deb is doing is putting wineasio.dll.so into the /usr/lib/wine directory, and the README.TXT file into the /usr/share/doc/wineasio directory, so if you want to manually copy it (them) in there (sudo cp) then you could do that too. Now we need to register the dll with Wine (as you would in Windows) and you do not need to be root to do this:

regsvr32 wineasio.dll

I got a couple of fixme messages from wine here (I am currently using wine 0.9.56) but eventually got the message:

Successfully registered DLL wineasio.dll

Then I ran the Windows version of eXT2 and tested it. Seemed OK, but I have been using 0.7.2 up until just now, so time will tell if 0.7.3 is stable or not -- probably it is.

Bill

[AllenPOPO]

Perhaps someone could write me a "wineasio install guide for idiot" but for some reason I just can't get it installed in my linuxmint...

Wine itself works ok, same for XT2 and some vst's I've tested so far. Can't say for latency (without wineasio that is...) as I haven't done any serious recording with it just yet. But it seems like the days completely without Windows is getting closer.

have you seen the guide here? search "[HOWTO] wineasio" on the forums and you will find a nice guide...although its a bit dated. Although sandsound keeps a permanent host of the wineasio build and she has been updating it so she may have thenewest one hosted but im not totally sure.



congrats on the album too! I went to your myspace page and those are some really cool tracks man!

[kenoby]

ive a little issue with wineasio-xt2. All audiotracks dont show the waveform but only 3 tiny dots at the beginning of the audiopart. audiotracks still work as normal apart from the display issue.

[ret]

Thank you very much for all the tips... After hours of frustration I almost gave up but then started to wonder if there is something really basic wrong in my system. And I mean really basic... Then discovered I didn't have wine-dev package installed!

After installing it it took like couple of minutes to have everything working.

[windeguy]

Hello all, my first post: I have Jacklab (SUSE Linux) installed on a 1.4 GHz PC with 512 MB of memory. It is attached to a Lexicon Omega. I can record and playback using Ardour, but Ardour has no midi capabilities which is something I really want in a DAW.

I have tried to get EnergyXT2 to work both using the Windows version with Wine and Wineasio and also the Linux version of EnergyXT2. So far I don't have much success.

The WINE/Windows version loads quickly, but stutters badly now matter what settings I try to make it work. I have no current workaround, but am certainly curious as to how others have made this version work well in Linux.

I then downloaded the Linux version, extracted it and ran it, but it will not playback at all when I choose the Lexicon Omega. Anyone have a similar issue that they have overcome?

Being new to Linux, I am not sure I really installed the Linux version correctly , so if there is a tutorial on that, please point me to it.

[Lump]

Being new to Linux, I am not sure I really installed the Linux version correctly , so if there is a tutorial on that, please point me to it.

The native Linux version of eXT2 is a nice try, but Jörgen ignores all Linux Standards (LSB) and didn't offer the essential jack binary because he didn't know that libjack is LGPL (It is a joke to offer a half developed source for jack and no alsa midi out because he don't understand what the word "lesser" means). A very good example for a clean Linux port is Renoise http://www.renoise.com/ - it's a tracker, but shows how it should be.

So don't waste time with the eXT2 Linux version, it is crap from my sight of view. And take the advise from AllenPOPO, the forum.jacklab.net will be a better place for your questions.

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