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BTW I don't think she is profoundly deaf (ie unable to hear anything). In fact most 'deaf people' have significant loss (obviously) but are still able to hear to some degree and over limited a range of frequencies.

Although deafness can mean many things - I think in most cases it tends to be the upper frequencies that are most affected .... so is is a bit like an average hearer who might lose their 'high end' a bit when they get older except that 'high end' for a deaf person might extend all the way down to middle C .. or lower

I guess if you can find an accurate diagnosis of her, or some other significantly deaf person, you could then use filters to recreate how they would hear music/ speech/ street noise etc. I'm pretty sure in EG's case she can still hear what she plays but with 'significant filters applied' if you see what I mean.

Anyway she is an inspiration regardless of/ because of her deafness. :)
There are too many groups, there are too many musicians - M.E.S.

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Here's another aspect that also follows the same theme of, 'amazing hidden perceptual abilities of the human body - brought out by those who need to'

A blind boy who 'sees' using sonar (part 1 of 5)

There are too many groups, there are too many musicians - M.E.S.

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Hovmod wrote:
nuffink wrote:
ughnonumus wrote:The construction of the physical human body is, in fact, arranged in musical proportions.
f**k me, I've seen a few dissonant ones then.
No wonder so many yanks feel the need of $10,000 subs in the trunks of their cars, either!
These individuals are known collectively as idiots.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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loose snare wrote:BTW I don't think she is profoundly deaf (ie unable to hear anything). In fact most 'deaf people' have significant loss (obviously) but are still able to hear to some degree and over limited a range of frequencies.

Although deafness can mean many things - I think in most cases it tends to be the upper frequencies that are most affected .... so is is a bit like an average hearer who might lose their 'high end' a bit when they get older except that 'high end' for a deaf person might extend all the way down to middle C .. or lower

I guess if you can find an accurate diagnosis of her, or some other significantly deaf person, you could then use filters to recreate how they would hear music/ speech/ street noise etc. I'm pretty sure in EG's case she can still hear what she plays but with 'significant filters applied' if you see what I mean.

Anyway she is an inspiration regardless of/ because of her deafness. :)
losse snare, she sais herself that she is "profoundly deaf", BUT, apparently profoundly deaf is less deaf than just 'deaf'.

She sais that she can hear speech when someone talk to her, but she need lip reading as a backup to fully understand the word, etc...taken from her essay here: http://www.evelyn.co.uk/live/hearing_essay.htm

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Hovmod wrote:...I certainly remember having a bit of a boner throughout the session. It's hard not to think about pussy when you're in a room filled with sound that you KNOW is being scrutinized by a highly trained clit.
It is rare to read a description of a musical performance that covers so many essentials so concisely. :clap: :hihi:
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We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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A3ntar wrote:
loose snare wrote:BTW I don't think she is profoundly deaf (ie unable to hear anything). In fact most 'deaf people' have significant loss (obviously) but are still able to hear to some degree and over limited a range of frequencies.

Although deafness can mean many things - I think in most cases it tends to be the upper frequencies that are most affected .... so is is a bit like an average hearer who might lose their 'high end' a bit when they get older except that 'high end' for a deaf person might extend all the way down to middle C .. or lower

I guess if you can find an accurate diagnosis of her, or some other significantly deaf person, you could then use filters to recreate how they would hear music/ speech/ street noise etc. I'm pretty sure in EG's case she can still hear what she plays but with 'significant filters applied' if you see what I mean.

Anyway she is an inspiration regardless of/ because of her deafness. :)
losse snare, she sais herself that she is "profoundly deaf", BUT, apparently profoundly deaf is less deaf than just 'deaf'.

She sais that she can hear speech when someone talk to her, but she need lip reading as a backup to fully understand the word, etc...taken from her essay here: http://www.evelyn.co.uk/live/hearing_essay.htm
OK, so we have ambiguous terms - that follows! ... as it happens I'm learning sign language (as a hearing person) and finding that there are a lot of misunderstandings and fuzzy terms about (and I am still pretty ignorant myself!) so I made sure to look up the term before posting that comment and came up with this:

Adj profoundly deaf - totally deaf; unable to hear anything

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/profoundly+deaf

So there you go! .... I guess EG is probably right and the dictionary is wrong!

So she can hear speech but not fully understand it - interesting... this is about what I thought.

Anyway, it is fascinating subject - perception! - I think in the 'West' with our 'non holistic' and 'anatomically based' view of the human body we are taught to view our senses as split into clearly defined exclusive 'realms' sight, sound, smell etc as well as exclude the possibility of perception coming from any other area. It is quite literally a debilitating way to view the human body and IMO your average modern, socialized human animal is in many ways living in a perpetual state of learnt sensory deprivation because of this - we have gradually been giving up our natural 'perceptional prowess' ever since we stopped being hunters and started farming and relying on technology .... people like EG and the blind boy in my link above prove how much untapped potential we all have.
There are too many groups, there are too many musicians - M.E.S.

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Hovmod wrote:It's hard not to think about pussy when you're in a room filled with sound that you KNOW is being scrutinized by a highly trained clit.
:lol: I think that should be someone's new sig.

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You kids crack me up! :lol:

This topic will definitely be on my reading/surfing list this week.
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