Helix's new Stringmodel and Arpeggiator (Mac and win32)

[JonasNorberg]

chainge a OSC "TYPE" the gui for that gui becomes a mixed mess of the new type & the old type intill you turn the OSC off & on again

Subz

Yeah I saw this too, I'll look into it.

[JonasNorberg]

Jonas, would you care to elaborate a bit on syntax of arp scripts?
they look totally powerful, if a bit intimidating

I'm glad you found the scripts... this is still under construction, I'll probably be changing some of this in the future.

!!!WARNING!! THE BELOW IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART !!!WARNING!!

Basically its a simple assembler like thing that gets translated into bytecode at load. If there's an error in the code the arp-script will simply not show up in the list.

the syntax is simple. All variables start with $, all labels start with @ a line starting with / is a comment.

there are a bunch of op-codes, here's a complete list

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lo $note

will store the lowest pressed key in $note

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hi $note

will store the highest pressed key in $note

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set $note $original_note

will set $note to the value of $original_note

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set $note 12

will set $note to 12

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add $note 12

will add 12 to $note

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up $note

will make $note be the next higher pressed key, or invalid if $note is currently the highest pressed key.

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down $note

see description of up

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valid $note @loop

if $note is valid jump to @loop, otherwise do nothing

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invalid $note @loop

if $note is not valid jump to @loop, otherwise do nothing

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lt $note $high @loop

if $note is less than $high jump to @loop, otherwise do nothing

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gt $note $low @loop

if $note is greater than $low jump to @loop, otherwise do nothing

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goto @loop

jump to @loop

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on $note $vel

note on

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on $note $vel 12

note on with an offset (12 seminotes up)

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off $note

note off

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off $note 12

note off with an offset

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wait $time

wait for a few "ticks" (a tick being the time spec.d in the arp settings in Helix)

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wait 1

wait for a tick

Phew... that's it... I'll add some useful debugging tools at some point...

Hope that helps

[michu]

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set $note 12

will set $note to 12

12 as in midi note numbers, ie fixed value (eg. c4=60)?

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off $note 12

note off with an offset

offset? in time domain, ie ticks?

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wait $time

wait for a few "ticks" (a tick being the time spec.d in the arp settings in Helix)

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wait 1

wait for a tick

so, if i get it right, a tick is a step defined by a period/rate control?
also, before i try it (my mind boggles at the moment )
is it possible to trigger more than one note within one tick (i sense note off could be a problem)

the thing seems very promising

cheers

[JonasNorberg]

The offset is on the keyboard... if $note points to c4 and you want to play c5 use 12 as an offset.

so, if i get it right, a tick is a step defined by a period/rate control?
also, before i try it (my mind boggles at the moment )
is it possible to trigger more than one note within one tick (i sense note off could be a problem)

You can go wild... it's up to the script to call "off" for every "on". You can start all 32 voices from the script if you feel like it.

You can write a little symphony using the script instead of your sequencer... but I'm sure most sequencers are easier to work with

[michu]

i've just got the hang of it more or less.
i think i'd prefer lt and gt to be <= and >= iso < and >

maybe piano roll is a bit easier to input data but such neat things like your scripting allow the symphony to be dependant on keyboard input. which can be invaluable live

i'll get back to you when the dust settles in my head

[ThunderDrums]

Is it able to open patched from the last few versions?

Thanks.

[JonasNorberg]

Is it able to open patched from the last few versions?

Thanks.

yes.

PS. Helix has always been able to do this. DS.

[JonasNorberg]

I've got some stuck notes in arp buffer...

This will happen if you change the "octaves" range of the arp while you have keys pressed... kill the voices by switching presets back and forth. (or send all notes off)

[lotus2035]

Yes!...*downloading*

[ThunderDrums]

Those new additions are fantastic. Now I have a synth that does the best supersaw, The best bass, and now plucked strings sounds aswell...what could be better?


Jonas, do you have a visual on how to get the new oscillators to follow notes? I remember you posted it once before but I cannot seem to find it.


Thanks

[Asuyuka]

I tried this a long time ago, back when it didn't have the seperate GUI pages.

I lvoe all that's been done, I had a lot of doubts back then but its shaping out to be a wonderful synth.

[JonasNorberg]

what could be better?

Bowed strings

Jonas, do you have a visual on how to get the new oscillators to follow notes? I remember you posted it once before but I cannot seem to find it.

The easiest way is to load the Init preset. To connect them in the modmatrix do this:

• 1. Find to the modulation matrix.
  2. Find an empty row.
  3. Put KBD0 in the left most column.
  4. Put 127 (full right) in the amount column.
  5. Put O3-Pitch to route it to the pitch of oscillator 3.

In this image you can see how the keyboard (kbd0) is routed to the pitch of both
osc0 and osc1:

Hope that helps.

Jonas

[ughnonumus]

Thanks, man!

[glokraw]

OK first stupid question... where's the arp?

There are no stupid questions! It's a poly-mode... poly, legato, mono, ARP

If you keep adding more bloat, the download will soon become a 600k behemoth


Will the pro version become an 800k MONSTAHHHH?

This version sounds better in linux than in windoze, because I can't hear the cash register
sounds in linux...

I really like the 'little drop' preset, that ePiano with some extras! Thanks for keeping this Synth near perfection! I'm sure I saw the cpu meter move, really, I'm sure!

[MaliceX]

I will soon be checking this new update out. :O

Quite the unexpected to say the least! :O