I just want to say something.

[Rabid]

I bought Rhino when it first came out. At the time I was a bit disappointed. The sound was good but the CPU use on my P4 was pretty bad. I was also disappointed that Rainbow owners did not get a break. Especially since I had only recently bought Rainbow.

But, as the months went by this VSTi kept improving. It has really turned into a must have. It my opinion it is the only VSTi that can compete with Atmosphere and ABSynth on pads and one note wonders. All the initial disappointments are long gone. Only one thing bothers me now. I like Tick. He seems like a very nice guy and I want to see him do well. But, Rhino makes a great secrete weapon. When people ask “What is that synth?” I want to avoid the question. The devil on my left shoulder screams for me to remain silent. “Don’t tell them about Rhino. Keep it secret. It is too good to share with the competition.” Then guilt takes over and the angel on my right shoulder reminds me that music is not about competition. So while Rhino sounds great it is also the cause of a great internal struggle. Good vs. evil. If I someday snap from the pressure, or maybe turn evil because I ignored the angel on my shoulder, I want everyone to know that it is Tick’s fault.

Robert

[hao nao]

well, maybe this is analogous to the Magician's Code, where one doesn't reveal the spooky business unless it's to a fellow practitioner who is likely to make good use of it

[Revolver]

But, Rhino makes a great secrete weapon. When people ask “What is that synth?” I want to avoid the question. The devil on my left shoulder screams for me to remain silent. “Don’t tell them about Rhino.

Dude, that is some funny sh*t! You got me laughing good! Of course because I've had similar thoughts when people ask but I, like you, just tell them what I used. I figure heck... if they try to copy or immitate people will look down on them. Besides, my innate talent should count for something in the songs impressiveness right?

[tconrardy]

Dude, that is some funny sh*t! You got me laughing good! Of course because I've had similar thoughts when people ask but I, like you, just tell them what I used. I figure heck... if they try to copy or immitate people will look down on them. Besides, my innate talent should count for something in the songs impressiveness right?

Ok...I admit it: I used Ejay

Seriously.... Rhino has a unique sound, and I was amazed at the stuff you can coax out of it.

I was programming a deep sound, made some custom waveforms with the additive editor, then put it down to -24, and played a bass note, and just about Sh** a brick and was knocked on the floor. I named it "Rhino speaks" and you can hear it on the new bank.

and..I do use Ejay from time to time: it's great fun! ..but Rhino is the secret weapon.

TimC

[Ian SDZH]

With all these new banks popping up, it's getting to the point where Rhino is meeting nearly all my needs in a track - pads, bass, lead and there's even some fked up beats in there now that I could use.

This is without doubt the best synth I own and with the TC and Ambient banks, I have not had to fork out for Atmosphere(........yet )

But I guess that I'm preaching to the converted here

I still can't believe sth that cost me $80 can sound so wonderful (and much more expensive!)

Count me as a satisfied customer

[Jeremy_NSL]

soo... $80? how'd you score that price?

[Big Tick]

Simple - he took advantage of the 1 month promotional period when Rhino was released...

'Tick

[Ian SDZH]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!

[wrench45us]

re: rhino and cpu usage, etc.
not every rhino preset uses a lot of cpu. rhino has so much built in with the multi-stage envelopes and multi oscillators and the sequencer and effects that it's natural that a talented and creative sound designer like Tim, Tick or Daniel is going to want to stretch out into all that capability. The thing that I really appreciate about rhino is how lovely and transparent some very simple sounds can be. and some of these sounds use no more cpu than a mono bass preset -- 4 to 5% on my P-4.

the complex pads can fill up a mix in a hurry. i tend to use some of the more complex pads for swells behind simpler pads -- augmentation.

otherwise as S_A_P says two complex pads are about all that's needed to fill things in.

i find that i really can't compose (if i dare to even call what i do composition) with a complex pad. i need something simple to start from -- something where i can hear the voicing inside a chord progression moving. then i throw things in along the edges. and sometimes strip chords back to one note wonders.

i guess what i'm saying is rhino really is my favorite synth, not just because it's capable of cpu intensive complex evolving pads, but because it sounds so great with the simpler presets as well.

last night after auditioning Tim's new bank for a few hours I went back to the DX7 bank and listened again to some of those presets. A few minutes later I had the start of a new project using a little riff that came from fooling with the Dance Echoes preset.

i'm really looking forward to the DX7 sysex import for this very reason of working with the simpler presets (and then naturally building some layering with oscillators/envelopes and adding effects)

and like Madame Swizzle (the very name invokes so much) I've used rhino on virtually every project since I bought it. I demo and occasionally buy other synths almost solely on the basis of how they blend with rhino. [ex. albino -- very seamless blend and the free Reaktor Carbon -- nice for its fx presets to augment or alternate with rhino's complex pads -- those two i use the most with rhino] [and on that same note albino's basses seem to my ears to be the perfect bottom anchor end with rhino -- placing a roundness at the bottom that complements rhino's glassier edge]

[Rabid]

To be honest I usually build a song first with other synths. Then, Rhino is the icing on the cake. I love it for intros or breaks. Those times when you go down to drums and a soft base while a showcase synth sound is allowed to evolve. Rhino is my first choice when I want a sound that builds over time and keeps the listener interested. These are usually pads or very strong single notes. I avoid patches with rhythmic patterns. Maybe because of my history as a drummer. I want to create those on my own. For songs that start slow, you have about 2 seconds to grab a listener and keep their attention. If you are going to depend on a single sound it better be interesting. Rhino is very capable of doing this.

Robert