Andreas Krebs: Symphony No.1

[ProductBE]

@ProductBE: My plans are: sharing this music. Dreams: finding an orchestra willing to play it
Andreas

Send your score to that cool young Russian, Vasily Petrenko ,at the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic, he is the principle Conductor there. Send it out everywhere - you never know.

[liqih]

downloading now and I will tell after some listenings.

Thanks for sharing

[me109]

I grew up with 10 years of classical piano and organ, and it's still a great influence in my musical life, but I never paid enough attention to the more modern orchestral composers. Maybe I was more motivated to listen carefully to yours, but it definitely reached me!

I'm curious about the level of training that you've had.

[AndreasKrebs]

I'm curious about the level of training that you've had.

Unfortunately, not much training. Two years of piano lessons (about 25 years ago). Then read some books (half of which I may have understood). I'm no musician, I'm a psychologist who happens to work in information technology. However, I always loved music either active or by listening.

Cheers & thank you for your feedback!,
Andreas

[Ubiety]

Will get to it. Probably Sunday morning.

[MaxSynths]

I'm no musician, I'm a psychologist who happens to work in information technology.

Funny, I'm a patient
Downloading now. I'll let you know something.

It's a good thing to see there are persons that have interest in symphonic music and decide to dedicate their time to compose symphonic works. Anyway being a psychologist most of the time doesn't help to make music, you need to be on the other side of the desk to explore the world of creativity in his fullness. Surrender to madness now!

[MaxSynths]

A little request if you don't mind Can I listen to the piano reduction please?

[AndreasKrebs]

Can I listen to the piano reduction please?

Unfortunately, there is no piano reduction yet. I am currently transferring the midi data from Cubase into Overture (notation software). This will take some days to get everything right, i expect. But if there is a question I can answer?
Kind regards,
Andreas

[MaxSynths]

Can I listen to the piano reduction please?

Unfortunately, there is no piano reduction yet. I am currently transferring the midi data from Cubase into Overture (notation software). This will take some days to get everything right, i expect. But if there is a question I can answer?
Kind regards,
Andreas

Oh no, it was only for satisfy my curiosity, only to have a different picture of the whole work because I think your symphony sounds really good but I can't express an idea about the music itself and the orchestration. The sound is excellent for sure, you have a great talent in mixing, mastering, etc.
Anyway I'm tempted to say that the whole thing is too "cinematic" but there's something underneath the curtain that I have to understand... maybe this can sound strange, it's not the usual comment such "I like it", "I don't like it", but usually when I have this reaction it's always a good thing (the same happened a lot of times also with the great composers).

What can I say is that your first symphony is strange, unusual. I'm not sure for example if the tempo indications are appropriate. I would like to understand if it's something planned or only a "mistake". I have to explain: you know that in classical music the various indications follow a traditional form; the indication "adagio", for example, doesn't indicate only the tempo of the piece but also various characteristics of the musical form; usually in modern composition these indications are avoided because the musical form is free from any traditional scheme. In the case of your symphony I have some troubles to decodify the structure of the movements. It's a really complex work, non-figurative, sometimes "cold" and "distant".

In the meantime I'm downloading also the other works (Arkana and Sinfonietta).

About Sinfonietta I have a question: you say it's a waltz. I can recognize it's a piece in a ternary time (3/4? 3/8?) but here again I have the suspect you have choose to take the standard structure of the waltz and then modify the musical rules.

It's clear your music have his own fingerprint, but I'm curious to know what is your way to see music, most of all the theorical aspect because is clear you focus you attention most on chromatism than in melodic parts. I'm wrong if I say that Schonberg had some influence on you?

Then I've listened to something from Arkana and I like the idea behind it and the way you have developed the various parts (at least those that I have listened). I like the idea to take all the pieces tied together without gap between the tracks. This is something I've done for my album Alaya (something conceived for meditation), I think it has a great hypnotic effect. I have a question about it: as a psycologist how much you have been influenced by your knowledge about synchronicity and archetypes in the realization of Arkana?

Max

[AndreasKrebs]

Thank you very much for your posting! I'll try to answer as good as possible for me.

I'm not sure for example if the tempo indications are appropriate. I would like to understand if it's something planned or only a "mistake".

The tempo indications are not meant in the same way as e.g. Haydn would have used it (he probably would not have called this a symphony, anyway). So especially the first movement "andante" is not "going" through the whole movement, because there are several "stop and go" situations (I'm not sure if I describe this correctly), it begins rather slowly, etc. and there are several tempo changes within each movement. However, there is some "default tempo" (e.g. around 3:00, around 4:10, 7:00, etc.) which were meant with "andante".

About Sinfonietta I have a question: you say it's a waltz. I can recognize it's a piece in a ternary time (3/4? 3/8?) but here again I have the suspect you have choose to take the standard structure of the waltz and then modify the musical rules.

Yes, you are completely right: this is not meant to be a traditional waltz (however, it uses a 3/4 time). I trys to get some of that "waltz swing" into it without sounding old fashioned. Something like: how could a waltz sound after knowing pop and rock music, minimal music, berlin school electronics, etc.

It's clear your music have his own fingerprint, but I'm curious to know what is your way to see music, most of all the theorical aspect because is clear you focus you attention most on chromatism than in melodic parts. I'm wrong if I say that Schonberg had some influence on you?

Oh, theory. Don't expect too elaborated things from me here
Yes, Schoenberg is an important inspiration (though I would not want to compose serial music). I like polyphonic music, i.e. independent parallel lines that build up the structure. Sometimes, this leads to chromatics, and to things that happen simultaneously. I always try to work with reduced raw material (melodic fragments), especially Sinfonietta is built like this. And I like to avoid "expected things". These are the technical aspects.

More important for me is to find my own musical language. All of the composers (and popular music groups as well) I like will have an influence on this, while I should try to avoid any copy but instead to integrate what is important for me.

as a psycologist how much you have been influenced by your knowledge about synchronicity and archetypes in the realization of Arkana?

Oh, quite a lot. The Tarot cards can be seen as representations of archetypes. They may also represent key situations in one's life (the "Lovers" e.g. can be seen as a happy and free decision for something / someone from full heart, whereas the "Devil" is quite the opposite, like being tied to something without having heard one's inner voice).

Kind regards,
Andreas

[Ubiety]

...the "Devil" is quite the opposite, like being tied to something without having heard one's inner voice).

Or being tied to something having heard one's inner voice.

[AndreasKrebs]

...the "Devil" is quite the opposite, like being tied to something without having heard one's inner voice).

Or being tied to something having heard one's inner voice.

Hmm, maybe something like gear aquisition syndrome (we are way off-topic, are we?)
Cheers,
Andreas

[AndreasKrebs]

Just in case someone wants to read the score:
http://www.andreaskrebs.de/assets/media ... ndante.pdf

This is the first movement, no articulations, dynamics or tempi written down yet, but hopefully readable...

Kind regards and excuse my shameless bump ,
Andreas

[MaxSynths]

Uh thank you for the score!

[AndreasKrebs]

Uh thank you for the score!

Let me know if it is at least "somehow readable" (I'm just learning Finale...)

Cheers,
Andreas