Wusik and spam email [mod edit: Should be fixed now!]

[adventurepants]

sorry if this is the wrong place for this, moderators please move if necessary.

I posted this already on the Wusik forum, but it of course was promptly deleted.

I want to raise the issue of Wusik.com and their aggressive spam marketing. I unsubscribed from their mailing list over a year ago, and since that time i have received about 20 pieces of spam from them. I have mailed Wusik, wusik support, and William K. I have followed every direction on their email and website to unregister myself, and still the spam comes.

This is no longer an oversight, this is unacceptable and aggressive marketing, and a refusal to delete people off their spam lists. Im not trying to have a go at Wusik as such, I just want some attention so hopefully they will stop spamming me.

Im pretty sure Im not the only person this is happening to.

cheers,
pants

[Compyfox]

No hard feeling and not to feed the trolls, but same here.

Last mail I got from Wusik (before the last 2 I got with yet new offers) was like "we have a new system, unless you confirm to this mail, you won't get any additional info - cause we're a club now".

I'm not saying that Wusik is bad in anyway, but the marketing is sometimes just too agressive, and before you even know it - bam, new version. I dropped out of the game with Wusik 2 already, and now it seems like the "Club" idea is gone already, too?

Gee, Wusik as firm sure lives on the fast lane, unlike other firms I know and better not comment about.

[musikmachine]

I got my first email from them today and i was a little surprised to find it in my spam folder. Even windows mail thinks it's spam!

[fabi]

i'm not surprised to see such a thread here. i made a post very much in this vein in another thread today - probably in vain.

I, too, am fed up with it.

[zerocrossing]

My funniest spam from them was the one that told me I wasn't on their mailing list (I think I'd gotten several emails from them that week alone) and it asked if I wanted to be on it. I tried opting out but nothing really happened, I still get everything too. Annoying, but considering how much v1@g9@ spam I get a day it's hardly noticeable and there's a dirty little part of me that's kind of interested in William's latest hair brained money making scam.

[plastique]

I also usually get/got those emails, and tell you what - I have a filter (one of many) in my email program that sends them straight to the spam folder. Almost as simple as putting a sticker "no adverts please" onto the mail box. Those filters are pretty naive, but they work perfectly for wusik (which don't mangle the text like the really nasty spammers try to do to get around the filtering).

[Meffy]

@adventurepants: I can't speak for William, but I think in that post you said you would be reporting his domain to spam filtering services. (If this wasn't you, apologies; the rest of this is addressed to whoever did say that.) I think that would be a very bad course of action. Consider: it would mean anyone whose ISP subscribed to one of those filtering services would be unable to get email support for their Wusik products. Don't punish the users. Don't punish William either -- though complaining isn't against any rules.

For now, I'll see if there's anything I can do to help resolve the situation to everyone's satisfaction.

[adventurepants]

It is only a small amount of spam in the large scheme of things. Its easy to filter, but it really annoys me that William is willing to sully his professional name by using the same tactics as criminal spammers.

Its accepted that any legitimate business will honour requests to remove people from spam lists. The fact that William will send email to me saying that I am no longer on his mail list, but would I be interested in his new product is incredibly unethical.

[adventurepants]

@adventurepants: I can't speak for William, but I think in that post you said you would be reporting his domain to spam filtering services. (If this wasn't you, apologies; the rest of this is addressed to whoever did say that.) I think that would be a very bad course of action. Consider: it would mean anyone whose ISP subscribed to one of those filtering services would be unable to get email support for their Wusik products. Don't punish the users. Don't punish William either -- though complaining isn't against any rules.

For now, I'll see if there's anything I can do to help resolve the situation to everyone's satisfaction.

Meffy, thanks for the reply.

Ill hold off on your recommendation. Im not trying to punish William professionally, I just want him to stop sending me spam. Though If he continues to behave as the spammers do, i will start treating him accordingly.

This comes after asking over 5 times to be removed from his spam lists.

[Distorted_Mastermind]

Just gonna to add that I unsubscribed and still get them as well. I wasn't angry about it, but did think it was annoying.

[Meffy]

Understood. Thanks.

[fabi]

@adventurepants: I can't speak for William, but I think in that post you said you would be reporting his domain to spam filtering services. (If this wasn't you, apologies; the rest of this is addressed to whoever did say that.) I think that would be a very bad course of action. Consider: it would mean anyone whose ISP subscribed to one of those filtering services would be unable to get email support for their Wusik products. Don't punish the users. Don't punish William either -- though complaining isn't against any rules.

For now, I'll see if there's anything I can do to help resolve the situation to everyone's satisfaction.

I don't want people to stop receiving support.

But this shouldn't in the long term be reason AT ALL not to report him.
If HE wants his users to receive their support all he has to do is stop being a SPAMMER and he won't risk them not receiving their wusik emails.

For the time being I'll just ignore his emails and complain about them here, though.

[plastique]

@adventurepants: I can't speak for William, but I think in that post you said you would be reporting his domain to spam filtering services. (If this wasn't you, apologies; the rest of this is addressed to whoever did say that.) I think that would be a very bad course of action. Consider: it would mean anyone whose ISP subscribed to one of those filtering services would be unable to get email support for their Wusik products. Don't punish the users. Don't punish William either -- though complaining isn't against any rules.

For now, I'll see if there's anything I can do to help resolve the situation to everyone's satisfaction.

Notifying the wusik hosting company and reporting abusive usage (spam distribution) would be probably more directed IMO. This could surely hurt wusik a bit, but well, that's the risk they seem to be taking with their advertising style. Not that I would advise to this now, just for the case that all ropes fail.
Maybe if enough complainers are around this could be something worth to consider. I personally found this to be a minor issue up to now though, but I also haven't asked to be removed for several times.

[InfiNeat]

They stopped spamming me after I wrote a very angry email. That was after I had patiently unsubscribed from the mailing list many times already. They replied that according to them I had never unsubscribed... Unbelievable. But at least I seem to have been taken off their list since then.

[androidlove]

a little ot, but did you know william released A new drum/groove solution: WGBox VSTi?