KVR Audio

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:27 am

Greetz,

I finally got around to remastering this beast and up-sampling it to the minimally decent 192Kbps, and would like your opinions on it.

Here is the remastered version: Grab A Cab Remastered 192Kbps

If you do decide to lend an ear, along with any opinions, could you indicate what you used to listen to it with (i.e., Cans, earbuds, PC Speakers, home stereo, MP3 player, studio-class monitor speakers, all-of-the-above, etc.)?

It's a mere two minutes in length.

For reference, if you feel the need, here's the original mix: Grab A Cab Original - 128Kbps

Much Appreciated!

Cheers,
Alex

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:37 am

Wow ... what a nice surprise. Not at all the usual KVR fare. Sounds great to me listening on Genelec studio monitors. Really good mix

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:58 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:Wow ... what a nice surprise. Not at all the usual KVR fare. Sounds great to me listening on Genelec studio monitors. Really good mix

Oh man -- on the Genelecs!

I really wanted to hear that

Thanks mate!

Frankly, I sweated and worried with the remastering because for the last month my ears are burnt from standing in front of a stack of amps

Cheers & Thanks,
Alex

ford442 · Post by **ford442** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:06 am

listening on behringer TRUTH 2030As
i like the spacial quality the range of different sounds creates..
i think the bass especially is mixed very well..
i'm no expert, but i like it,..

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:11 am

ford442 wrote:listening on behringer TRUTH 2030As
i like the spacial quality the range of different sounds creates..
i think the bass especially is mixed very well..
i'm no expert, but i like it,..

Ahh! Another good set of monitors!

I think my main worry is always mixing bass and low end properly (I just don't trust my ears as much these days), so it's good to know I got the lower registers happening!

Cheers & Thanks mate

Alex

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:41 pm

One of the best track, i've heard on kaviar yet (i knew it already ... anyway)!

The mix is quite transparent, everything's on the right place ... the bass is outstanding, indeed.

(Yamaha HS-50)

mechri

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:14 pm

Cooool man

Excellent!

The synth part starting at 00:20 maybe should be a little less brittle and more muffled like a sax and maybe try the vocal 1-track, stark and plain against the backing.. maybe a touch of 1 repeat longish delay. I'd like it to be more Rod Sterling if you know what I mean? Or not.. It's fine as is..

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:36 pm

mellotronaut wrote:One of the best track, i've heard on kaviar yet (i knew it already ... anyway)!

The mix is quite transparent, everything's on the right place ... the bass is outstanding, indeed.

(Yamaha HS-50)

mechri

Thanks Chris old mate!

Really great to hear that about the bass -- my major worry in remastering was getting that upright to be in-yer-face tonally but not overwhelm the general ambiance.

Cheers & Thanks for listening (again)

Alex

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:24 pm

tomg wrote: Cooool man

Excellent!

The synth part starting at 00:20 maybe should be a little less brittle and more muffled like a sax and maybe try the vocal 1-track, stark and plain against the backing.. maybe a touch of 1 repeat longish delay. I'd like it to be more Rod Sterling if you know what I mean? Or not.. It's fine as is..

Hey Tom -- glad you dig it mate

I didn't use any synths in this particular song -- just percs, brass, upright bass, and piano -- but there's a flugelhorn duet that starts up at :18, with a b flat bass trombone following. When you say it should be a bit less brittle and more muffled, do you mean less harsh-sounding? It's possibly too harsh at that spot. In my monitors, it is sounding relatively OK (but yes my ears are burnt as I said

) I gotta listen again -- maybe tweak it down a wee smidge and see how it sounds. Not sure what you mean by "vocal 1-track". Do you mean mono or center-extracted perhaps?

What did you listen through mate?

Rod Sterling? Not really sure who that is -- sorry.

REALLY appreciate the feedback!

Cheers,
Alex

folderol · Post by **folderol** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:12 pm

Listening on phones (AKGs).

Very clean production. Everything crystal clear.

Interesting piece of work. Can't categorise it at all, but it has a curious attraction.

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:19 pm

Posh folderol wrote:Listening on phones (AKGs).

Very clean production. Everything crystal clear.

Interesting piece of work. Can't categorise it at all, but it has a curious attraction.

Them is nice cans -- I have the 240DF (Diffuse Field) Studio Monitors -- wouldn't do a song up without 'em!

Thanks Posh!

vieris · Post by **vieris** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:25 pm

Just checked it out on some ADAM S3A's.
Overall great track. The only thing that bugged me is the verb. A little to much for my liking. Mostly the kick verb is what got to me. But as i said cool track, me just nit picking.

folderol · Post by **folderol** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:30 pm

adj wrote:
Posh folderol wrote:Listening on phones (AKGs).

Very clean production. Everything crystal clear.

Interesting piece of work. Can't categorise it at all, but it has a curious attraction.
Them is nice cans -- I have the 240DF (Diffuse Field) Studio Monitors -- wouldn't do a song up without 'em!

Mine are K240 studio - discontinued now I think

Thanks Posh!

Could be worse I suppose. When I was at college I used to wear square black rimmed glasses and got the nickname 'Joe 90'

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Really great mix!!

adj · Post by **adj** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:02 pm

vieris wrote:Just checked it out on some ADAM S3A's.
Overall great track. The only thing that bugged me is the verb. A little to much for my liking. Mostly the kick verb is what got to me. But as i said cool track, me just nit picking.

Yeah I can hear what you mean. There's no verb on the kick specifically, but maybe the room IR isn't as tight as it could/should be. Trouble is, that entire kit is on one IR and the perc are all on several different other room IRs -- all mixed to that track (which, I reckon when added up together in the mix makes a bit too much verb in total on the ears). However, I'd have to do the drums/perc track over again and remix (too much trouble for this song) to make any changes (well -- maybe one day

). Other than that, having that particular spatial feel is intentional and more or less what I was after. Mainly though, I wanted the piano to really be hollow-spooky and to kinda float above the club IR used on the brass. Sometimes I think I went a little overboard on it and maybe it's too weird -- perhaps even too unnatural sounding, then other times I tend to like it. Anyway, it's taken me over three years to get off me arse to remaster it -- around here that's progress...

Cheers for the listen with the ADAMs and constructive comments mate!

Alex

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