KVR Audio

blortblort · Post by **blortblort** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:32 pm

hi d4l3d,
There's no limit to the length of a sample that would be processed by either Automaton OR Replicant. they should be set in the signal path as vst effects; they don't have to be "loaded" with a sample (I *think* that may be what you were asking?)

Also- I have experience using both (much less with Automaton... just got it yesterday

) on "non-beat" material: I've used them on electric piano and clavinet sounds and they're both excellent with melodic material as they are with beat oriented stuff. Certainly since the effects are set up to change in sync with the global clock of your host DAW, these FX will give a rhythmic feel to whatever you send thru them, but I would definitely say they're not STRICTLY for rhythm loops. quite nice with other stuff

d4l3d · Post by **d4l3d** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:13 pm

Thanks muchly

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:26 pm

bmanic wrote:I like the concept of the sequencer but I'm not so thrilled about the effects that it controls.

I feel exactly the same way. The sequencer is interesting but I don't need any more glitch/buffer effects. I find myself using mainly the filters and delays in Effectrix, for example.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:31 pm

It would definitely be nice to have the kind of effects bmanic mentiones.

To keep the interface as is, these new effects modules could be made available just as an option. For example, if I didn't want to have the bitcrusher, I'd open the library of supplied effects and choose, say, a flanger, which would then replace the bitcrusher effect. This would keep the GUI simple.

_oswald · Post by **_oswald** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:31 am

After watching both demo videos and having the modulation options explained, I'm pretty much set on buying this tomorrow when I get home from school.

Consider it a gift to m'self for being a good student.

blortblort · Post by **blortblort** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:50 am

_oswald, yer gonna dig it. Automaton is tripendicular. (Chris- you can quote me

)

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:05 am

bmanic wrote:How do you use it with other FX? Or you just mean you insert other 3rd party effects after Automaton?

Stick Automaton in send mode, use only modulator triggers, set the modulator to 100% dry, et voilà, a cellular automata-based gate. Stick a phaser and delay after it, route original audio to another channel, and you have intermittent affected audio mixed in. Might sound something like this:

http://www.sighup.ca/misc/ca_gate.mp3

That's a four bar loop, first dry, then 12 bars with the Automaton channel turned on. Admittedly, using it this way, the effects all seem superfluous, but perhaps an over-spec'ed CA gate is better than no CA gate at all?

blortblort · Post by **blortblort** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:38 am

shamann wrote:....Stick Automaton in send mode, use only modulator triggers, set the modulator to 100% dry, et voilà, a cellular automata-based gate...

...and the "pretty flippin' clever" award goes to...shamann!!!

seriously. That's some brilliant stuff. I've been using different combinations of follow actions and unlinked envelopes in Live to achieve that sort of random gating, but this is just an awesome idea. rack a few Automatons using with subsequent fx using that method and bob's yer uncle

thanks for the tip, shamann

bogh · Post by **bogh** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:14 am

This is going straight to the top of my "to-buy" list... Those Airwindows plug-ins will just have to wait a little while longer

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:48 am

For those, who already bought Automaton - please compare it with db Glitch. What is the difference? To be more correct, I'm curious about structure and glitch advance possibilities. Thank you.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:12 am

not having actually used automaton (saw the video demo tho') i thing it glitches things with a bit more rythmic smoothness compared to glitch maybe.

Spookyrockstar · Post by **Spookyrockstar** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:43 am

Igro wrote:For those, who already bought Automaton - please compare it with db Glitch. What is the difference? Thank you.

Updates and support (more often) are the first things that come to mind even though I don't have automaton..........yet.

loose snare · Post by **loose snare** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:33 am

Just bought Automaton - it sure is a great plug (plug number 7 of my AD collection).

I have a feature request - it feels a bit early for feature requests, but hey .....

I'd like to be able to set the measure to something other than 4/4 ..... like 7, 11, 12, 6, 5 (you get the picture I'm sure) beats etc as I work a lot in different time sigs. This would be awesome-a-ton.

I can see a conflict with current set up ie 1/2 measure values etc .... maybe have dual controls (1) the current way and (2) a simple 2-32 knob or slider or a little arrow you can slide along the bottom row. And a switch to switch between them.

Even if it is possible to detect host's measure length ..... and judging by other plugs it isn't - I'd still like to be able to set it manually.

Also, more FX would be very cool, but I am not complaining this is a great plug - just being greedy.

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:50 am

i'm against more fx in Automaton ... better to keep it simple, but a new plug with the same sequencer and different effects would be cool!

thoshu · Post by **thoshu** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:08 am

Hm, does it have midi-out?

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