What?ughnonumus wrote:His Daddy was a bootlegger...who obviously asked what he could do for himself. Isn't it a curiosity that the son instructed us to do the opposite (i.e. ask what we can do for our country)?robojam wrote:
Ich bin a donut.
One of the golden rules: NEVER let people make laws/rules that apply to you and not them.
Score sheet for "Against All Odds" Phil Collins
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
Now with improved MIDI jitter!
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- addled muppet weed
- 111280 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no jacket required 
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- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
vurt wrote:no jacket required
http://www.retrothing.com/2007/06/phil_collins_no.htmlOne more surprise up 8-track's sleeve is just how long it stuck around on the sly. Around 1984 8-tracks disappeared from most retailers' shelves, but determined fans could still pick up some limited new releases until about 1988 via mail-away record clubs. That's the story behind the Phil Collins 8-track of his massively successful solo effort, "No Jacket Required". That makes "No Jacket Required" one of the few albums that would have been concurrently released on LP, 8-track, cassette, CD, VHS, CED, and who knows what else since.
Not many people know that.
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dirty oscillators dirty oscillators https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122600
- KVRAF
- 2739 posts since 4 Oct, 2006
what does that have to do with the op asking for a score sheet for against all odds? i mean i'm guilty of running threads way off topic too but...
Eins zwei drei vier funf sechs sieben acht
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 836 posts since 28 Nov, 2007
Some of the hate posts here are coming from pure arrogance and some are just plain stupid.
What you people are saying is that transcribed sheet music should be obsolete as no one should ever use it.
You are also saying that there must be only one method to learn playing the piano. It should be by ear alone. That's really arrogant and stupid.
Some have an excellent ear for music, others not, some are piano experts and can deduce all the chords and fills in 5 minutes, some are beginners who need a place to start from, some people don't like notation sheets others want to practice their notation reading etc. etc. etc...
So stop being arrogant and just shut up if you don't like this thread. You don't need to reply.
On the other hand, thank you to those who were helpful in this thread.
What you people are saying is that transcribed sheet music should be obsolete as no one should ever use it.
You are also saying that there must be only one method to learn playing the piano. It should be by ear alone. That's really arrogant and stupid.
Some have an excellent ear for music, others not, some are piano experts and can deduce all the chords and fills in 5 minutes, some are beginners who need a place to start from, some people don't like notation sheets others want to practice their notation reading etc. etc. etc...
So stop being arrogant and just shut up if you don't like this thread. You don't need to reply.
On the other hand, thank you to those who were helpful in this thread.
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- Banned
- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
No one was hating on sheet music, yairhol, in fact one poster defended your use of sheet music.
They were hating on Phil Collins, and then the Kaiser and then John F Kennedy, then there was a discourse on the inequity of wealth and class and then back to Phil Collins again. But never was anyone hating on sheet music.
They were hating on Phil Collins, and then the Kaiser and then John F Kennedy, then there was a discourse on the inequity of wealth and class and then back to Phil Collins again. But never was anyone hating on sheet music.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111280 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
debs is correct, no problems here with sheet music. i do have a problem with shite music though, and phil collins has made his fair share of that...
plus as hes now banned i dont think its fair to start threads about him.
plus as hes now banned i dont think its fair to start threads about him.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 836 posts since 28 Nov, 2007
Phil collins is a genius in my perspective.
Sorry about the sheet music thingy. I was sure all those pictures and whatnot were intended (somehow) against that.
Now back to the sheet music, I have found this link:
http://www.forpiano.com/FILEX/phil_coll ... l_odds.pdf
but since now it is still pretty difficult for me to play I cannot fully understand what it should sound like.
If there are experts here who can play and record it (only the accompanying chords not the tune itself) then I will really appreciate it.
The problem is that I play it so slow now that I can't understand big parts of it and how it relates to the song.
Thank you.
Sorry about the sheet music thingy. I was sure all those pictures and whatnot were intended (somehow) against that.
Now back to the sheet music, I have found this link:
http://www.forpiano.com/FILEX/phil_coll ... l_odds.pdf
but since now it is still pretty difficult for me to play I cannot fully understand what it should sound like.
If there are experts here who can play and record it (only the accompanying chords not the tune itself) then I will really appreciate it.
The problem is that I play it so slow now that I can't understand big parts of it and how it relates to the song.
Thank you.
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- KVRAF
- 16804 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
It's been discussed in a lengthy thread recently. Can't bother to dig it up for you, but many (including me) do agree with you...yairhol wrote:Phil collins is a genius in my perspective.
This song is probably not the easiest to play. And if your sheet music reading capablilties are still lacking, then you need to work on that. Excersize, practice, do it often. You could cheat ofcourse (I know I would!) but really... all the info you need is in that pdf.yairhol wrote:Now back to the sheet music, I have found this link:
http://www.forpiano.com/FILEX/phil_coll ... l_odds.pdf
but since now it is still pretty difficult for me to play I cannot fully understand what it should sound like.
On page 1 someone pointed you to a midi file, not? Import that into any host, and put the piano part in solo mode. Select small regions of notes, and play those at slow pace. It's probably not the exact same thing as what's printed in that pdf, so I'd suggest to make up your mind: play what's written in the pfd or play what's in the midi file. Personally I'd use the midi file only for guidance of the broad lines, not as an exact guide.yairhol wrote:If there are experts here who can play and record it (only the accompanying chords not the tune itself) then I will really appreciate it.
You could also do the reverse: record the notes you play from the sheet music, in a DAW, and edit the timing so it's back to how it should be.
Practice, practice, practice... It's not easy, you need to work on it! And maybe this song is just too difficult for you right now.yairhol wrote:The problem is that I play it so slow now that I can't understand big parts of it and how it relates to the song.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 836 posts since 28 Nov, 2007
Yes, that's a great idea.BertKoor wrote:You could also do the reverse: record the notes you play from the sheet music, in a DAW, and edit the timing so it's back to how it should be.
The other midi part that was posted here is not the same as the pdf file that I posted and I wanted to follow the file.
I think I'll do just what you suggested and vary the speed.
Thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
10cc beat you to that gag by ~34 years!robojam wrote:[Bad Mexican accent]I think Señor Collins he make sheet music.[/Bad Mexican accent]debra1rlo wrote:No one was hating on sheet music
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
My father got to meet JFK once. That isn't relevant to this topic, I just thought I'd mention it.robojam wrote:
Ich bin a donut.
Back on topic, the original poster asked for an accurate score. Keep in mind that if you're trying to play this on piano, you don't want an accurate score. An accurate score would have individual staffs for each instrument in the arrangement. What you want is a piano interpretation of the song, covering as much of the instrumentation and vocal melody as possible with a single instrument. It might still be possible to purchase a used copy of the sheet music for that song somewhere, if you dig around a bit.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.