Does any other VST sound as good as Sylenth?

[Caysi]

Sylenth1 costed me 165.41 euros with VAT. It came with 1200+ presets.
Zebra2 is gonna cost me 193.22 including VAT. And it comes with 250 presets.
Its 30 euro difference.


Edit: (Err Massive or Zebra for my next buy? Cant decide)

so did you pay for the synth or the presets?

[BONES]

Because so-called "prefessional" magazines are just consumer krap-fests. I learned a long time ago not to trust their opinions on anything, the hard way [blew $2500 on the worst sampler I've ever owned]. I noticed that Sound on Sound, a magazine whose reputation I actual trust, is conspicuous by its absence from that link.

Sylenth1 costed me 165.41 euros with VAT. It came with 1200+ presets.
Zebra2 is gonna cost me 193.22 including VAT. And it comes with 250 presets.
Its 30 euro difference.

Worth every penny not to have to wade through all those presets, wouldn't you say? I think that more than 128 presets is off-putting, not a selling point. For me, the relative cost is Au$269 vs Au$287, hardly worth worrying about. z3ta+ is a flat Au$200, which is a significant saving for an instrument with a lot more to offer.

[jupiter8]

Sylenth1 costed me 165.41 euros with VAT. It came with 1200+ presets.
Zebra2 is gonna cost me 193.22 including VAT. And it comes with 250 presets.

I have'nt made a single one myself. All of them are from here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 90&start=0

[thespecialist]

Because so-called "prefessional" magazines are just consumer krap-fests. I learned a long time ago not to trust their opinions on anything, the hard way [blew $2500 on the worst sampler I've ever owned].

Buying something purely based on a magazine review, that would indeed not be the smartest thing. That doesn't mean they're all 'consumer krap fests' though. But oh well, just another thing we can add to the list of things we disagree on

[Download SOphist]

Its almost as if people are forgetting what $200 can buy you these days.

oh yeah, you can get stoned real high for far less, back where i come from.

[Download SOphist]

z3ta+ is ten times better.

what does that mean? is it the perpetuation of the original mistake? if you want to know what is the best, you have to define what game you're playing (wittgenstein) and what criteria you're following.

[hakey]

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[grymmjack]

the strength of sylenth1 is it's simplicity, great sound, insanely frugal cpu footprint, and easy to use gui.

surely zebra and z3ta are just as good if not better if you want complex but i know for a fact that sylenth1 is easier to get to sound AS GOOD as if you had worked hard on z3ta but much faster to do it.

i own z3ta and it's a klunky POS compared to sylenth. it sounds great, as does rapture, but both of those are NOT easy and immediately programmed. sylenth1 is, and this is where it is worth the hype.

it doesn't matter how complex and powerful a software instrument is if it takes ages to work with, it's going to lose. bottom line. z3ta sounds great, but if it were not for it's legacy of presets nearing thousands immediately available, nothing would make it worth owning - it's too annoying to work with, with too many inconsistencies and not enough pay out. it's got bugs that have been in it forever that really piss me off too.

the same is true for rapture - it's just not trivial or immediate for programming - the power adds complexity that was not handled well in the UI. rapture UI is even WORSE than z3ta -- the number values are so tiny and the way it works is not efficient because the targets are so small to click and adjust. it's a realy bear to get into that "zone" with.

sylenth1, however, isn't. the sound gets good fast, even if you dont know shit, and you can pile them into projects without any worry about your computer resources being abused.

it's the same reason firebird is great, and the same reason nexus2 is great. they are the most effective, most helpful to stay in the zone, and highest quality instruments for this purpose - full immersion while riding the creative wave.

that is why sylenth1 is the king.

[Urs]

You must have missed out one a couple of banks... or is this just the best of?

[RunBeerRun]

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Blank post with no opinion, fact, or reference point.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Because so-called "prefessional" magazines are just consumer krap-fests. I learned a long time ago not to trust their opinions on anything, the hard way [blew $2500 on the worst sampler I've ever owned]. I noticed that Sound on Sound, a magazine whose reputation I actual trust, is conspicuous by its absence from that link.

+1 BONES, i fully agree with you on that + TapeOp is the only other magazine i trust and is BS free (However it does not cover gear reviews in any great depth) and it also does not cost a penny. The only exception is Computer Music: i buy a copy every 2 months or so and the reason for that - all the free stuff which is on the covermount DVD (which for the price is f**king incredible considering what you get for £5/£6 pounds sterling - in fact you get Zebra CM edition which is a cut down version of the full Zebra - so before you dig deep for massive or the full version of Zebra vicious_angel get yourself an issue of Computer Music for the DVD would be my advice along with demoing the synths).

Dean

[mhemnarch]

Going through the demo again, essentially all the presets sound horrible once you turn of the FX.

[The Hamburglar]

Sylenth is generally warm, whereas I find Zebra generally cold.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Sylenth1 costed me 165.41 euros with VAT. It came with 1200+ presets.
Zebra2 is gonna cost me 193.22 including VAT. And it comes with 250 presets.
Its 30 euro difference.


Edit: (Err Massive or Zebra for my next buy? Cant decide)

so did you pay for the synth or the presets?

mate: how much per preset does each workout at?

i lost my damned nerdy wear casio calculator wrist watch about 18 years ago it was a bit like this bad boy:



Might pick one on ebay

[vicious_angel]

You missing the point i didnt payed the presets i tend to program my synths.
I mentioned the presets because for x amount of money you take this. Downloading presets takes personal efort and they are not in a bundled product.
But if i find some presets that works on a project then i have a starting point for tweaking. The most sounds that comes with sylenth1 are not in my style, they sound too trance for me.

But a lot of people dont care about synthesis. They need presets. It was a reference point. (and dont tell me that they dont, look at the next rompler with moog,jupiter,moon and sun samples...).
As grymmjack said its not a beast of modulation but certainly suit my workflow for programming sounds on it.

NEKRO.MACHINE: where i live i searched to a lot of stores that brings magazines from europe but i couldnt find it anywhere to buy it( i am gonna check that again thow). But dont worry i always make my research before i buy something.

ps: its late i am drunk if you dont make a point of it then my greek to english brain dont work as intended so i am gonna double check my post tommorow