Overloud TH1 Guitar System released!

[fanfarecircuit]

Nothing to add.

but... you have the option to not install the pace drivers with the demo. it's built right into the installer. i chose not to install the pace drivers and the demo functions perfectly. so, it seems overloud has taken care of this problem, at least on the windows side, which is how i demoed it.

[susiwong]

I don't think so.

From the Overloud download page :

Please note that Overloud products are copy protected with PACE technology. Therefore, iLok/Interlok drivers/extensions are required by our products to work.
Every product and format installer has the option to include or skip the installation of these copy protection drivers/extensions, only for the purpose of not possibly replace the former installation on your system (provided that the installation is working and of the latest version available).
By installing Overloud products, you accept to also own a working installation of iLok/Interlok drivers/extensions because they it is mandatory to make products work. Also note that iLok/Interlok drivers/extensions are required for Demo purposes as well.

Funny some companies never realise how many sales they lose and how much bad reputation they earn for using such overkill.
Would you (as an honest person) go to a store that's protected with x-ray scanners and guards with machine guns at every corner ?

Normally a thread like this would be filled with anticipation and discussion of the product itself, maybe price discussions, wishlists, bug reports, but not having this crap overshadow the fact that a new product has entered a market which still has a long way to go sonically.
Maybe TH-1 bas raised the bar qualitywise, maybe not, I'll never know as long as they are associated with PACE.
There is always another company trying to get my money, too bad so many succeed.

Ymmv,
susiwong

[fanfarecircuit]

what do you mean you don't think so? i'm running the demo right now with no pace drivers installed. weird.

[fanfarecircuit]

oh... i finally actually read the quote in your post.

sorry.

[susiwong]

what do you mean you don't think so? i'm running the demo right now with no pace drivers installed. weird.

How do you know ?
Is there a way to verify ?

Cheers,
susiwong

[fanfarecircuit]

no, you are probably right... but the installer is kind of misleading, because i really thought i was bypassing that.

oh well.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I was going to download the demo today, now I'm going to hold off. Does the demo need to install PACE drivers to run? And is the C/R method also done via PACE drivers?

That's a no go for me if so.

[susiwong]

no, you are probably right... but the installer is kind of misleading, because i really thought i was bypassing that.

oh well.

I would love to be proven wrong and download the demo at once, but that's not how it has worked in the past and not how I read that "disclaimer" I quoted above.

Nice weekend,
susiwong

[fanfarecircuit]

I was going to download the demo today, now I'm going to hold off. Does the demo need to install PACE drivers to run? And is the C/R method also done via PACE drivers?

That's a no go for me if so.

after reading the disclaimer above, i would say yes to both of your questions.

this pace thing is very unfortunate. this is a really great piece of gear at a nice price.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I was going to download the demo today, now I'm going to hold off. Does the demo need to install PACE drivers to run? And is the C/R method also done via PACE drivers?

That's a no go for me if so.

after reading the disclaimer above, i would say yes to both of your questions.

this pace thing is very unfortunate. this is a really great piece of gear at a nice price.

Oh well, if that's the case then I won't even demo it, let alone purchase it. PACE/iLok equals an immediate lost sale here.

I was thinking about getting some new strat pick-ups, but then I saw this and decided to hold off on the pick-ups until I tried this out. Looks like I'm going to be purchasing this instead: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-Ar ... 1393902.gc

[fanfarecircuit]

Oh well, if that's the case then I won't even demo it, let alone purchase it. PACE/iLok equals an immediate lost sale here.

yeah, man... don't demo it. it just kills me, because i really want this after trying it... but i agree with your position and demoing it is just a big tease.

[susiwong]

Looks like I'm going to be purchasing this instead: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-Ar ... 1393902.gc

Funkybot, please post a report if you do.
I've been using various noiseless "singlecoils" over the years, Duncans, Keystones, a bunch of Fenders atm but haven't heard those diMarzios yet.
Hope you'll like them,
susiwong

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Looks like I'm going to be purchasing this instead: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-Ar ... 1393902.gc

Funkybot, please post a report if you do.
I've been using various noiseless "singlecoils" over the years, Duncans, Keystones, a bunch of Fenders atm but haven't heard those diMarzios yet.
Hope you'll like them,
susiwong

I just went ahead and placed the order after I looked today and saw that the price fell another $50 (it was $299 earlier in the week). I should get them in this week. I'll let you know what I think about them. So far I haven't read a bad review on em yet and everyone agrees that they actually sound like single-coil pickups (which is important for me).

[susiwong]

I just went ahead and placed the order after I looked today and saw that the price fell another $50 (it was $299 earlier in the week). I should get them in this week. I'll let you know what I think about them. So far I haven't read a bad review on em yet and everyone agrees that they actually sound like single-coil pickups (which is important for me).

Hey cool, good luck !
susiwong

[koolkeys]

It's unfortunate that these issues have to overshadow a fantastic piece of software. I do want to ask again though: Is it even POSSIBLE for a program to change your system timing automatically? And if it IS possible, then why is there only one report of it happening? Surely the installer would have caused issues elsewhere?

I really don't think the installer is changing any system time. I don't know what IS doing it on your system Bevoss, but I doubt it's quite as shady as you think.

Also, whether you like PACE or not, the fact is that it runs on MOST systems without issues. It's the most used dongle protection in the industry by far. Sure you hear about issues on forums like these, but you don't hear about the loads of people without issues. I just think it gets blown out of proportion sometimes, especially as there IS a benefit to using an iLok(which you don't even have to use here).

I know some people will crusade until they are dead against PACE, and that is of course their right. But I think some perspective is needed here so that people interested in TH-1 don't get the wrong story.

I would be interested(not here, but in another thread please) in how many people who are against PACE(not dongles, but PACE itself in any form) have actually had issues or if they just went by what they have read? Internet forums never EVER give the whole story. We know that the noise is always louder than the praise.

Brent