KVR Audio

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:03 am

...or do I have to go the 3rd party route? Thanks.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:08 am

Define:VST rack

ynot · Post by **ynot** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:10 am

it has saveable fx chains if thats what you mean

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:17 am

Sorry, I meant something like Chainer, but built into the program.

chicken muffin · Post by **chicken muffin** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:25 am

yes it totally does

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:27 am

chicken muffin wrote:yes it totally does

Cool.
Please, can you tell me what it's called and how to access it. Reading the manual didn't help me. Thank you.

The Fex · Post by **The Fex** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:02 am

Help me out, here, rcat; I'm pretty sure I know the answer to your question.... but I'm having a hard time figuring out what the actual question is.

Anyway, to create a track for vst, use "Insert new track" in the "Track" menu. Reaper doesn't distinguish between MIDI and audio tracks.

Then "fx" on the new track to open the "FX chain" window. The first time you do this, this also opens a second window "Add FX to; Track X" (otherwise, you can click "Add" in the "FX chain" window) with a list of your plug-ins (assuming that you've told Reaper where to find them, which you can do under Options/Preferences/Plug-ins - VST). Select the ones you want, click "OK". The options to save and load FX chains are in the "FX" menu in the "FX chain" window.

Does this help at all? If not, please specify exactly what it is you're trying to do.

RawTheory · Post by **RawTheory** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:44 am

I think he might mean something like Ableton Lives Instrument rack feature. It allows you to layer as many vsti's on one track as you like and create keyboard splits and process each vsti individually from one track. I've been using Reaper for a little while now and I'd like to know if thats possible too.

The Fex · Post by **The Fex** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:26 am

On one track? Perhaps not. What's the advantage? I'd be inclined to route the MIDI track through several different tracks, each with different keyboard splits, VSTi and processors. Of course, I've only just worked out how to manage the keyboard splits....

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:25 pm

RawTheory wrote:I think he might mean something like Ableton Lives Instrument rack feature. It allows you to layer as many vsti's on one track as you like and create keyboard splits and process each vsti individually from one track. I've been using Reaper for a little while now and I'd like to know if thats possible too.

Yes, layering (in this case I mean hitting one note or chord on your keyboard controller and having two or more vsti's respond) or, having one vsti control another. This can be done with Chainer, and Chainer can also be used as a vst itself. However, Chainer has not been updated in ages and won't work with some of the newer vsti's.

sensorium · Post by **sensorium** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:28 pm

I think you can just add as many VSTi as you like to Reaper's track fx for a track. Haven't used reaper in a while so might be wrong, but I think it's as simple as that.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:58 pm

Yes, you can layer several instruments and efx in a track.
ANd yes, you can also save that as a chain.
Was it the question's answer ?

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:36 pm

The Fex wrote:On one track? Perhaps not. What's the advantage? I'd be inclined to route the MIDI track through several different tracks, each with different keyboard splits, VSTi and processors. Of course, I've only just worked out how to manage the keyboard splits....

+1

The advantage is the fact that you can create wild instruments and effects devices, and then save them as a one-track preset. The only way to approximate Live Racks in Reaper is to use multiple tracks.

Having said that, Reaper can come close since it can layer both audio and midi devices on the same track, but you cannot get the deep control with splits and macro controls and such that Live offers.

The Fex · Post by **The Fex** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:53 pm

Routing is one of the things Reaper handles really well. I think Reaper's routing capabilities should be able to achieve pretty much whatever effect chains you want (albeit with VST handling the keyboard splits), though it seems that you might have to use multiple tracks.... and so, if you want to re-use such a chain, you'd have to save the project template.

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:49 pm

Ok, I see now how I can do what I want to do in Reaper. Just keep doing the "Insert > Virtual instrument on new track" option, and the keyboard controller will activate all the instruments on the instrument tracks simultaneously, as many as the cpu can handle. Excellent! This opens up infinite possibilities. Mmmm, strange and wonderful sounds, especially with vsti's that have arps. Whoopee!

Does Reaper have a virtual instrument rack?