Basic theory problem that it seems to be overlook

[arturito]

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moran

[Sascha Franck]

moran

Chrissy Moran? Nah, don't like her fake tits.

[jc21161]

Thanks again tapper mike, so very much.

[jc21161]

Okay I'm writing this because I have not seen anything to actually teach people how to make music, so I am writing this as a favor to the viewers. All the many theory books and websites I have seen have stopped short of any tangible information on the subject, it's all just the same "blah blah blah blah let me show off what I know blah blah blah ain't I so smart blah blah blah blah # not b blah blah diatonic blah blah blah blah." The guitar is in my "Fricken" hands what the "Flying Fricken F" do I do!!!!

Okay, I will further breakdown my answer to the main topic of, "Basic theory problem that it seems to be overlooked". This is quite simply, the chords to play in relation to the particular scale you would like to use and do you need to know more then that, does a taxi driver need to know the workings of his motor and transmission etc? The short answer is NO.

I like this analogy though, considering the use of chords as melody (chords are melody at least when flowing.) The chords being the preprepared artist's canvas with beautiful colors brushed deep into the canvas and the notes of the particular scale used being the colors upon the artist palette. I will list these failsafe chords to get the viewers on their way to making GOOD music. Have you ever seen chords to use with a minor pentatonic scale on a website or theory book etc, not me until now.

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C PENTATONIC MINOR scale with chords[ C, D#Eb, F, G, A#Bb, C]

Cm, Cm7, Csus4, D#(Eb), D#add9(Ebadd9), D#sus2(Ebsus2), Fsus4, Fsus2, A#sus4(Bb#sus4), A#sus2(Bbsus2),

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C PENTATONIC MAJOR scale with chords - [C, D, E, G, A C ]

C, Cadd9, Csus2, Dsus4, Dsus2, Gsus4, Gsus2, Am, Am7 Asus4

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C BLUES scale with chords [C, D#Eb, F, F#Gb , G, A#Bb, C]

Cm,Cm7,Cdim,Csus4,D#,(Eb),D#add9,(Ebadd9),D#m,(Ebm),D#aug(Ebaug),D#sus2,(Ebsus2),Gaug,A#sus4,(Bbsus4),A#sus2,(Bbsus2),B,Bmaj7,Baug,

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C BEBOP MINOR scale with chords [C, D, D#Eb, E, F, G, A, A#Bb, C]

C, C7, Cadd9, Cm, Cm7, Csus4, Csus2, Dm, Dm7 ,Dsus4 ,Dsus2, D#(Eb), D#maj7(Ebmaj7), D#add9(Ebadd9), D#sus2(Ebsus2), D#maj9(Ebmaj9), Edim, F, Fmaj7, F7, Fadd9, Fsus4, Fsus2, Fmaj9, Gm, Gm7 ,Gsus4, Gsus2, Am, Am7, Adim, Asus4,

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Remember the guitar parts of a song are just a few repetitions of the same parts repeated and the bars of each part are some easy to remember number. Long slides and licks every few bars may make it seem more complexed.
and placing lyrics on the sheet music, and the sheet music will make the guitar parts look very complex, even though they're just a few repeated sections. I remember one of my favorite rock songs was just five bars repeated five times through the whole song, with a few silly five second note and bar chord slides in between but, the sheet music looked pretty scary.

tapper mike said, "more is needed then chords and scales."
You're born with that already but, you may listen to a song you love, for an example of what you'd like to do though.

I would think that the style of playing scales as fast as you can will sound better with the smaller scales like the pentatonic for two reasons, less notes to remember and it's a little further from the problems of the chromatic scale?
All the modes used in Heavy Metal music etc are just the C major scale played differently, from D to D for D Dorian for example. I imagine they thought it would sound like the church organ and music of Frankenstein's mansion or Count Dracula's Castle.

When tapper mike was referring to diatonic scales he was referring to the major scale, natural minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor and molds, and I believe he was disagreeing with an earlier statement that the minor pentatonic scale for an example also has the same chord triad, yes the G chord V of a triad is missing in the failsafe chord list of minor pentatonic.

Now you just need to download the trial version of FL studio, and watch FL studio youtube videos at the library if you do not have high speed, sometimes it helps to put them on pause and allow them to buffer a few minutes before watching. Some computer keyboards work better than midi keyboards, the keyboards with more of a spongy feel work better. Put some dark gray etc fingernail polish on the keys to represent black keys, on the side facing edge and with a colored marker color the keys of your particular scale used, its removable with rubbing alcohol. Computer keyboards are more convenient therefore used more.

If you have to schedule song making it is better to do it throughout the week rather than one day of the weekend for example.

Warning! Beware of music teachers that take advantage of people by teaching them a bunch of crap for months before teaching them a single chord to a song!
I suppose if they did not, they may go out of business but, sleep good at night.

My suggestions above are so HOT I may need a disclaimer.
Disclaimer: If you start getting laid its not my fault.

Suggestions on these chord and notes, used just as passing etc maybe a good starting point of further dialogue.

Where are you The Fex, we miss you.

I would greatly appreciate, as I'm sure others as well, on continued tips and suggestions on this basic theory problem that it seems to be overlooked.

Colors not colours, things are done differently in the USA. hehehe.

Thanks,OP

[The Fex]

This is quite simply, the chords to play in relation to the particular scale you would like to use and do you need to know more then that

Yes.

The short answer is NO.

Perhaps, but I think the right answer is probanly "yes".

C PENTATONIC MINOR [unholy mess] Asus4,

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Thanks. I'll pass.

All the modes used in Heavy Metal music etc are just the C major scale played differently

Some computer keyboards work better than midi keyboards

Warning! Beware of music teachers that take advantage of people by teaching them a bunch of crap for months before teaching them a single chord to a song!

Good advice! Let's simplify it, though. How about "Beware of wannabe teachers who talk crap"?

Where are you The Fex, we miss you.

I'm right here. But at this point, I'm giving up on you. Again.

[bugs]

Superficial theoretical knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

[jc21161]

The Fex had rolling eyes to my statement of,
"All the modes used in Heavy Metal music etc are just the C major scale played differently."
Cracks are forming in your brick wall The Fex, I may have you convinced yet?

Thanks for your input, The Fex and bugs

[The Fex]

You're absolutely correct, of course. All heavy metal is in C major. All of it.

[Sascha Franck]

You're absolutely correct, of course. All heavy metal is in C major. All of it.

Nonono! It might as well be D dorian, in case you want it to sound like Frankenstein!

And regarding MIDI keyboards, I think they're vastly overrated, too. Sheer excellence can be achieved easier with a hammer. Just that I have pink nail lacquer on mine. You know, it's easier getting those Boy George bebop minor melodies out of it that way.

Ok, on to the library to watch some FL videos on YouTube. As usual, the missus there will be quite happy about me lacquering the computer keys. I always give the rest of my graphite grey nail lacquer to her, something she really seems to admire. I suspect she's got a sweet spot for some gothic church organ sessions during some secret Count Dracula worship meetings.

[jc21161]

Yes the modes are just the major scale in the way I said, C is used for simplicity. I guess you don't know as much about music theory as I thought you did, I'm so sorry, because I find the subject very fascinating but, with my songwriting I don't have the time.

Are you going to try to convince everybody that you're smarter than the chord and scale generator again? THE FEX gave it a go too.

No you don't use lacquer to watch youtube videos, I think you may have been sniffing some though?

I might add something I did not add earlier because, some of you are having problems understanding.... All the failsafe chords I listed are in order of most used from left to right, for each letter name.

Okay, anybody out there have some tips and tricks, I gave my 30 years of experience worth. We may need to stick closer to the category though, chords and scales. Even the dumbest ideas may shine light on the subject…. Please! Please!

Yours very truly, OP

[Sascha Franck]

So, what are you doing with your "failsafe" chords?

[BertKoor]

I will list these failsafe chords to get the viewers on their way to making GOOD music. Have you ever seen chords to use with a minor pentatonic scale on a website or theory book etc, not me until now.

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C PENTATONIC MINOR scale with chords[ C, D#Eb, F, G, A#Bb, C]

Cm, Cm7, Csus4, D#(Eb), D#add9(Ebadd9), D#sus2(Ebsus2), Fsus4, Fsus2, A#sus4(Bb#sus4), A#sus2(Bbsus2),

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C PENTATONIC MAJOR scale with chords - [C, D, E, G, A C ]

C, Cadd9, Csus2, Dsus4, Dsus2, Gsus4, Gsus2, Am, Am7 Asus4

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C BLUES scale with chords [C, D#Eb, F, F#Gb , G, A#Bb, C]

Cm,Cm7,Cdim,Csus4,D#,(Eb),D#add9,(Ebadd9),D#m,(Ebm),D#aug(Ebaug),D#sus2,(Ebsus2),Gaug,A#sus4,(Bbsus4),A#sus2,(Bbsus2),B,Bmaj7,Baug,

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C BEBOP MINOR scale with chords [C, D, D#Eb, E, F, G, A, A#Bb, C]

C, C7, Cadd9, Cm, Cm7, Csus4, Csus2, Dm, Dm7 ,Dsus4 ,Dsus2, D#(Eb), D#maj7(Ebmaj7), D#add9(Ebadd9), D#sus2(Ebsus2), D#maj9(Ebmaj9), Edim, F, Fmaj7, F7, Fadd9, Fsus4, Fsus2, Fmaj9, Gm, Gm7 ,Gsus4, Gsus2, Am, Am7, Adim, Asus4,

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I can think of a bazillion chord progressions in C that sound very nice but don't fit in any of those "fail-safe" categories.

But what do I know, I seem to be overlooking something

[jc21161]

I'm making some stunning chord structures, some of which I hate to cover-up with instrumentals, ironically the less I follow the theological suggested paths back to the home chord the better the progressions sound, so far. To me any way.
Thanks for asking though.

[jc21161]

All minor chords would probably work for an example, depending on what notes are sounding over a particular chord at the particular time.

[Sascha Franck]

the less I follow the theological suggested paths back to the home chord

Err, yes.

- S.